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It is a sign of good tailoring from bespoke suits. Any asshole knows this, fucker.

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It is to indicate that your suit is not off-the-rack, but custom made.

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Was she, by chance, a banker?

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Jinx

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The working button holes on the sleeves of your suit jacket have the purpose of demonstrating you are a bigger swinging dick than the guys with regular button holes on the sleeves of their suit jackets.

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tee hee. [he said *BSD*]

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Thanks. I enjoyed lunch, even if it was not al fresco.

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HA! I should get another t-shirt. Shapey is a very nice guy, but I am Penske's sock.

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What exactly qualifies as "unscathed"? Reputation intact? Not perceived as completely insane by a community of lawyers who read chat-style message boards? Do tell.

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Yeh, but once everyone knows about it, its not bespoke anymore. A few years back some TV show talked about how a good custom suit has stitching on the outside. Low and below, now everybody has stitching on the outside, some of it even mechanically made to look slightly uneven, to mimic hand stitching.

I've never even looked to see if the buttons work.

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European (Italian) or traditional venting?

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Ability to not let his damnning [is that a word?] asessment even phase me in as much as [should that be one word?] that I'm letting it go. One TM opinion does not define me.

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Me too. I thought about lunching al fresco, but it's still too hot here. My luncheon companions decided to pee al fresco, but then they always pee al fresco.

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Tell them NOT to pee on your new chair. That would be blasphemy.

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How utterly silly and pointless.

First, the sport coats weren't custom made. It was off the rack. The fancy, over-priced, Italian rack. But still.

Second, it looks stupid.

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Bagel with cream cheese by a long shot.

TM

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Well??

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well, WHAT I am his sock. right P-diddy?

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Gosh, if you had demonstrated that level of wit and clever repartee with TM, he might have overlooked your chubbiness.

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No, it only defines about 20% of your lifetime post count.

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Good on you! After a mere 15,000 posts you are letting it go, confirming that his opinion did not affect your self-image, self-esteem, or overall attitude in any way!

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Did you tell SS I said "hi!" or did you not?

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Oh shit. sort of? but I'm a sock. the pressure. argghghghghg

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I could eat an apple fritter now. Al fresco or otherwise.

C'mon over.

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My game was thrown off by the argumentative tone regarding my tits, the mention of rape and the suggestion that I prostitute myself for a purse. Many pardons.

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It's not a sacred chair. Or ball, for that matter. But the issue is moot, since the only animals allowed in my place of employment are generally about to be experimented upon. My luncheon companions are not laboratory material.*

*The DD's remarkable findings on gummi bear expansion in common water bowls were universally rejected by all the major peer review publications. He's done with science.

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You know, I could each a peach for hours.

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Leaving aside ppnyc stinging commentary, the notion that you need to put some utterly useless buttonhole into your sleeve in order to show good tailoring is moronic -- the kind of thing that would only matter to the purely vapid.

The sign of good tailoring should be, well, good tailoring -- a perfect fit. If you need some other sign, you might as well get a label that says "this suit was well tailored," and that will be as reliable an indicator as an alteration that has nothing to do with the quality of the tailoring work.

But that's just my opinion.

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I was told that single venting is a sign of cheap assed tailoring that any fool schmuck could make single vent.

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Ugh. That is why you hate me. or we just can't get along. Different Tailoring Philosophy.

The devil is in the details, babycakes.

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Gosh, imagine meeting someone for the specific purpose of confirming your so-called hotness, and he treats you with something less than complete respect.

If it was really such a barrage of insulting, sexist, offensive comments, why did you stay? Surely the drink could not have been that good, nor that expensive.

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Details that are irrelevant? Pass.

Though I have not doubt that your opinion of me is largely influenced by buttonholes.

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Because I'm fucking polite.

Even to the point that he suggested he's going to the train I said I'm going to Kenneth Cole and rather than telling him to fuck himself I blithely led myself off the the slaughter to look at stilettos. I should have poked his eye out. oops!

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At one point in time, functional buttonholes were one of the telltale marks of a bespoke jacket or suit.

Then the high-end OTR manufacturers (Zegna, Oxxford, etc.) started putting functional buttonholes on their top-line products. These days some top-end suits will come with unfinished cuffs on the jacket, so that the cuff can be adjusted to accomodate wrist size, what arm you wear your watch on, etc.

It's basically one of those things that some people look at as a sign of quality, and others look at as a sign of price.

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Honey, as annoying as I am I still don't see why you felt the need to kick me while I was down.

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You should look for the off-the-rack suits that have the fake buttonholes. Your not going to undo the buttons, and everyone will think you're well tailored.

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Always the voice of reason.

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Again, tell the whole story. You made it sound like he always tells you this type of thing, again and again with the hookers and tmi, in an attempt to make it sound like he was interested in you. I jokingly suggested that since he's looking for volunteers and since you had such expensive tastes, you could cut down on the tremendous hours you work by offering your services. It was nothing more or less than I would have said in response to one of your stupid, inane, pointless posts here. But keep 'em comin'! I'm really starting to look bad and you're looking much better.

Good lord. I'm not going to go over the rest again or talk about other conversation points. I'm not going to even go in depth about how I definitely did not stare at your tits (good god, they didn't come out as far as your belly when you sat down -- one glance was all it took).

But since you want to rehash the event in detail, I will talk about how you're being completely two-faced when it comes to SS. You implied to me more than once (on email and then in person) that you thought he was creepy and hitting on you for simply asking if you wanted to meet for lunch. I told you there was no way he was being creepy and he's just friendly like that and you didn't buy it. And now he's your best friend because you think he's going to give you a better evaluation. You're pathetic. And this won't hurt your SS evaluation because he's too nice to tell you exactly what I have already told you.

That may be true. I just don't think you can see it when it comes along.

True. You have your own, particular brand of insanity. It's not as fine-tuned as paigow's.

I'd like a breakdown of what you've won. Did someone send you more cookies?

TM

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Let it go, TM. you've done enough.

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Either:

1. She is descending into Paigow-like insanity, or

2. She actually is Paigow. Of course Thurgreed would know that (I think), so it must be number 1. Which is kind of amusing in a scary as hell way.