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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/ eta: OK, I tried to read that. It is tendentious nonsense. In addition to the credibility issues with the Daily Mail, Shellenberger has his own, and if you want to hear that from a respective non-lefty, read Slate Star Codex's lengthy review of San Fransicko. It's not that he make shit up, he pushes the facts about as far as they can go. If you are relying on his version of the facts, well, you shouldn't. To you, what is the single most damning fact in that story (as opposed to conclusory statements about what Shellenberger thinks shared without support)? I mean, seriously. You find that junk persuasive? The most telling thing about it is the republication of the lurid and embarrassing photos of Hunter Biden, which to any fair-minded person is a big fat reminder that the Hunter Biden episode is a continuing dirty-tricks effort by conservatives to make bad news for Joe Biden. Lobbying Twitter is not a crime or a violation of the First Amendment, and everyone understands that Musk was selective about what he shared with Shellenberger and the others. If you don't think conservatives were lobbying Twitter just as hard, you are deluding yourself. Try reading this more neutral account of the Twitter Files from NPR, and then rethink that breathless Daily Mail piece. Or this New York Magazine piece, refuting the Post's theory of the case: In the Post’s telling, the emails on Hunter Biden’s laptop contained dispositive evidence that Joe Biden had used his power as vice-president in 2015 to advance the interests of Burisma, a Ukrainian natural-gas company that had employed Hunter Biden. In the conservative media’s account, meanwhile, Hunter’s “laptop from hell” proved that Joe Biden had engaged in acts of corruption so wanton that they made Donald Trump look like Ralph Nader.Get a grip. |
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No. Get your panties out of a bunch. That you had to look so hard and far to refute by use of a review of a book on another subject, and haven’t refuted the factual statements of the article… well… Have a tequila. And understand… Your view isn’t factual; it’s biased. For the record, I totally agree that Trump lobbied Twitter as well. Weiss makes a huge point of that in her articles. Damned both-sider! |
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If you insist on sharing non-credible sources like the Daily Mail and Shellenberger, whose name is spelled without a c and whose stuff I have read, I will point out that you are sharing lousy sources. But you'll notice that I also posted a long piece explaining why he and the others were wrong about the Twitter files. |
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If you read this thread at all honestly, Yoel Roth of Twitter is telling Baker the Post’s story does not violate guidelines. In the face of this, Baker holds, tenuously, to the proposition, “We don’t know… it might be hacked.” https://twitter.com/mtaibbi You’ve dealt with media. As have most of us here. Lying to media is easy if it’s not securities stuff. Who cares? No duty is owed. That’s where Baker came down on this: Plausible deniability. That’s all one needs. It was the smart play for him. But not necessarily the smart play for Twitter? So it must be asked… Who was he really serving? Not Roth, who disagreed. ETA: The Post’s Twitter page was blocked for 16 days, not one. And… Please show me Twitter’s banning of links to the NYTines’ story about the stolen portion of Trump’s tax returns. Link please. Look, you can’t win this. Just fucking let it go with this understanding: There is a rule, and I get it it, among many “gatekeepers” that any and all means must be employed to stop Trump and his brand of authoritarian populism. Ends justify means. I get it. We all get it. But stop pretending there’s not a double standard. People hate that bullshit. They’d be more receptive to the truth: “Yeah. We in media love him as a carnival act for ratings and clicks. But we are allowed to do Whatever It Takes after we’ve made our money to try to stop him from ever acquiring power again.” That’s at least economically defensible. |
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By the way, given your views on China's idiotic handling of Covid, which were shit upon here by many people (and have put that country's economy in the shitter), shouldn't everything you offer include a disclaimer? Author's reasoning may be deemed suspect by most. |
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Establishment Rs who've butted heads with his people walk away disturbed. Not because he's a scary would-be Mussolini... Because neither he nor anyone around him has any judgment, long term planning skills, or a clue wtf they're doing! |
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How It's Going. You say a former in-house lawyer at Twitter, a guy previously at the FBI, made a bad decision. As I said previously, content moderation at Twitter was a thankless and lousy job. Occam's Razor gives you all sorts of ways to explain why they got stuff wrong without resorting to conspiracy theories about ex-FBI agents taking over Twitter from the inside. Quote:
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It's the height of obliviousness for you to argue that media gatekeepers are trying to stop Trump this week, with NBC just having given him a chance to lie, uncorrected, on Meet The Press. NBC acknowledges he lied lots, but it and Kristen Welker couldn't respond live, so the damage is done. If Biden did a fraction of that lying, there'd be a shitstorm, but the media do not know how to respond to Trump's brazen, constant lying, and they love the traffic the draws. Quote:
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From Gore Vidal to George Carlin, to many others, the retort to your allegation one making my point is trafficking in conspiracy theorizing is: I’m not. And one needn’t do so, as there are no conspiracies. Like actors act alike and complement each other. In simple terms, it works in an appallingly simple fashion. A few thousand people who took too much poli-sci, had parents with enough enough bucks that they could pursue journalism, and lacked enough common sense to realize their progressive professors were charlatans, filter into the media ecosystem. They all think alike, speak alike, and reinforce each others’ unlettered understanding of how things work and ought to work. The entirety of academia is polluted with these losers who’ve never made a payroll and believe they know, and ought to profess to others, how everything should work. They’re idiots, and they spawn idiocy in their wake, filling institutions with people who’ve never been required to meet metrics but think their sheltered views acquired in education and media confer a higher form of knowledge. It happens on the right as well. But not as effectively or anywhere near as often as it does on the left. It’s not a conspiracy. It’s collective self-reinforcing ignorance of the actual. An “ism.” But people like tribes. They want to belong. Progs to the left, MAGA to the right, stuck in the middle with who? Not you. |
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Your model of media bias completely misses the interests of ownership and management and their role in shaping coverage, as if the people who run media conglomerates just hand over the keys to the shop to lefty Ivy graduates. CNN took a big lurch away from the left because Christ Licht answered to libertarian billionaire John Malone. I would wager that you don't notice things like this because they don't irritate you. |
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1. The strength of the ideological bent among those entering media (can't really call it journalism anymore); 2. The pervasiveness of the low risk economic model I'll call "serving the silo." Regarding 1, media, particularly legacy media, is and always will be an industry the yeoman of which are idealistic. It's creative, and it attracts people who are either ego or ideals driven to have their voices heard and make a difference. The kids who just want the filthy lucre go into finance. The recent upheaval in the industry with the advent of social media and the internet isn't undoing that mindset. Regarding 2, Roger Ailes proved at Fox that it is better to create a silo and grow it than serve unbiased news to a broader audience. While CNN struggles trying to stay in the middle, Fox and MSNBC have devoted cults of viewers behind them. It's simply lower risk/higher dependable revenue to find a rabid audience and feed it what it wants to hear than offer contradictory choices. Fox owns the conservative audience, so there isn't much inroad to be made on that side. This is why MSNBC moved hard left rather than take on CNN. In doing so, it grabbed and now owns the progressive audience. CNN is stuck with a weird audience of people like me (I still like it and think it's the most honest). Quote:
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He also should not have done the Trump town hall as he did. Giving Trump a platform is fine. He's a Presidential candidate. But giving him a series of softball questions as they did, which was a naked attempt at the "get ratings from Trump, then kneecap him later" strategy so often employed was unwise. The man does not deserve fawning of any kind. And that was commercial crassness at its worst. |
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K Melania. I ain’t putting my dick anywhere near where his has been. Palin is getting old but I think she is less nuts than the B so I’d marry her and F Boebert. |
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Licht's tenure at CNN illustrates this. He got the job because a rich libertarian billionaire bought CNN and wanted CNN to broadcast stuff that better fit his rich libertarian views. (This is a poor market move, in that rich libertarians are a vanishingly small share of the market for views, but a common move by media companies, which are often bought by rich people.) Licht fired a bunch of people with left-of-center views, which of course served pour encourager les autres, and CNN's coverage has noticeably changed. You completely ignore the facts that people got fired and coverage changed, which completely disproves your point. Licht got canned not because anyone was throwing a "hissy fit," but because he didn't know what he was doing and it wasn't working. This article in The Atlantic is the definitive account. When he took the helm of CNN, in May 2022, Licht had promised a reset with Republican voters—and with their leader. He had swaggered into the job, telling his employees that the network had lost its way under former President Jeff Zucker, that their hostile approach to Trump had alienated a broader viewership that craved sober, fact-driven coverage. These assertions thrust Licht into a two-front war: fighting to win back Republicans who had written off the network while also fighting to win over his own journalists, many of whom believed that their new boss was scapegoating them to appease his new boss, David Zaslav, who’d hired Licht with a decree to move CNN toward the ideological center.You seem think that if CNN's ratings had been up, Licht would have been fired anyway. I guess you can believe that if you want to, but that's not how the world works. |
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In other news, Icky’s firm had a department that does most of the legal writing. They won’t work for icky because they know icky writes his own and will brief and argue things that aren’t slam dunks.
They got faceplanted on a few Daubert-ish decisions. Icky went 4-0. Icky circulated the decisions because it’s good to resurrect favorable law. Don’t you think they threw shade? |
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“CNN's controversial town hall with former President Donald Trump drew 3.3 million viewers Wednesday night, making CNN the most-watched cable news network of the evening, according to final ratings from Nielsen. Why it matters: The event delivered a much-needed ratings boost for CNN, though at a cost.” https://www.axios.com/2023/05/11/cnn...ll-tv-ratings# |
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The argument the public doesn't like libertarian news of a variety John Malone and Zaslav ostensibly wanted at CNN is correct, but that observation is misplaced in any analysis of why Licht failed. Licht never sought to offer libertarian news, and for good reason. Nobody would want to see that. The majority of viewing audiences who'll tune in to cable news regularly are siloed. They want a slant, and libertarian views frustrate these sorts of people more than do their respective opponents. If one seeks the binary (My Tribe vs. Other), he doesn't want to hear news from a perspective critical of that black and white thinking. His opponent at least reinforces the view that there's a battle for the culture/country/whatever comprised of two warring camps. Those who question the legitimacy of that game challenge his entire view of how the world operates. I think the clear takeaway from the postmortems on Licht is that he sullied the brand and misused Trump. Like it or not, for some reason, Trump remains compelling, getting more eyeballs than anybody else in the race (and arguably on the planet). Zucker played this for ratings by going to war with Trump. This acquired both ratings and gravitas. The yeomen in the trenches at CNN knew they were enabling and platforming a nutball for ratings, but they could abide it on the basis they were against him. Licht platformed Trump in a manner less confrontational and in parts positive (audience stacked with Trump friendly sorts). This risked reputational damage and angered the foot soldiers of the network who are almost entirely anti-Trump. Licht's problem isn't that he wasn't going to make money for CNN. Trump's ratings show he was on to something. The problem was the culture of the place is incompatible with that level of cynical ratings-chasing. The other problem is that because of his unique nature, one cannot be agnostic on Trump. His attraction is the extreme polarization he creates, without which he wouldn't have succeeded as he has in politics. People like us can separate a man from his policies and look at the pluses and minuses (Immigration: Disaster; Tariffs: Stupid and Counterproductive; Expansion of Standard Deduction: Huge Help to the Working Class Renter Segment of Society, etc.). The average audience member cannot do this and does not want to do this. They are for him or against him and that's that. Licht tried to cover Trump as a normal candidate, and that Just Does Not Work. |
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Notwithstanding that, you now accept that Licht got fired because his programming strategies did not work. Not that this contradicts your earlier theories about how he got fired because of lib employee whining, or that the mainstream media oppressively and hegemonically covers the news in an effort to defeat populism. So I'm glad you have moved on from that nonsense. I would put the last thing you said differently. There is a large core of conservatives who want the news delivered from a conservative slant. They watch FOX News, which knows (we know from the Dominion case) that it has to tell them what they want to hear even when it's nonsense, because otherwise they may go somewhere else like OAN or Tucker's Twitterfest. There is a small core of lefties who want something like FOX News for lefties. This market is much smaller and has not been able to sustain anything like FOX News on the left -- witness the failure of Air America, or the many obvious differences between FOX News and MSNBC, which has some programming for these folks. And then there is a mainstream crowd, that wants the news, relatively straight. These people are not as engaged as the FOX listeners, and they are more likely to watch CNN when something like a hurricane or an impeachment or a war is happening. Licht said, essentially, let's try to pick up more of an audience by trying to speak to moderate Republicans more. The problem is, that isn't an audience. He was either trying to get people to switch from FOX News, or to get people who aren't his audience more engaged. The FOX News viewers aren't going to switch to CNN, and there isn't an untapped crowd of libertarians or moderate Republicans out there. The failure here was to assume that there was a potential audience with views that more matched CNN's new billionaire owner. It is common for billionaires to make this sort of mistake, for obvious reasons. There is some pathos in watching a guy like Licht, who is not a billionaire, stake and lose his professional reputation trying to please a billionaire boss, but there is even more pathos in watching people below him at CNN lose their jobs because Licht was trying to square a circle, or in watching CNN give a platform for Trump in the process. |
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