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Hank Chinaski 10-01-2004 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Allergy Time

Episode Number 64
First Aired March 31, 1966
Writer Budd Grossman

Director Jack Arnold

Synopsis

The Skipper begins to itch and sneeze whenever he is around Gilligan. Soon all of the Castaways appear to be allergic to him. The Professor develops a vaccine, but it doesn't seem to work and Gilligan feels all alone.
Ty. You are released from your bet. SS, if you haven't paid yet, you don't need to.

Shape Shifter 10-01-2004 01:38 AM
Style Over Substance?
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/20...ka-square.html
Yeah, and Bush said he works hard. Should we roll the Crawford footage some more?

bilmore 10-01-2004 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by sgtclub
Because if the press is positive, it results in momentum, which reinvigorates the candidate. Kerry has been down for weeks and has lost some energy and confidence. This, I think, will bring him back to life.
The next Swiftboat ad will take care of this. It'll be good.

Shape Shifter 10-01-2004 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by bilmore
The next Swiftboat ad will take care of this. It'll be good.
Yeah! Politics of personal destruction! Woo hoooo!

Adder 10-01-2004 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
I said this before on other sites when people had a worry about the spin favoring Bush, and I'll say it again now that people think Kerry did better: Why does anyone care about the spin? The people they're trying to reach now are undecided voters, the people who don't pay much attention to the pundits at all.
Many, many more people see the headlines in tomorrow's paper or catch 20 seconds of CNN than watch the debates. The undecideds won't pay close attention to what the candidates actually said, they will absorb the general consensus that percolates through the media.

bilmore 10-01-2004 01:43 AM
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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Yeah! Politics of personal destruction! Woo hoooo!
Like I said before, the fun is back in politics.

(Four years of one-sided "liar, stoopid, monkeyface, evil, Hitler" may be fun for one side. Now, finally, it's fun for us, too. The idea of any Dem decrying the "politics of personal destruction" is just such a hoot.)

Tyrone Slothrop 10-01-2004 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by bilmore
Actually, in the interests of role consistency, I will say that my take is exactly opposite yours. Gore lost the spin, and won the debate.
But since he won the popular vote, and would have won Florida if the ballots captured people's preferences, I think my point stands and we are actually in agreement.

bilmore 10-01-2004 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
. . . and would have won Florida if the ballots captured people's preferences . . .
Oh, I don't have NEARLY enough time to go there.

sgtclub 10-01-2004 01:45 AM
Biased Questions?
 
From instapundit

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Is anyone saying the obvious? This foreign policy debate was all about putting Bush on the defensive. Why no attention to Kerry's 20 year Senate record of votes and statements on foreign policy, military and intell issues?! All I heard from Lehrer the entire evening was one sorta, kinda follow-up question on Kerry's post Viet Nam protest.

bilmore 10-01-2004 01:46 AM
Biased Questions?
 
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Originally posted by sgtclub
From instapundit
The questioning did sort of range from neutral, to attack-Bush, to neutral, to attack-Bush, to . . . .

But it was Lehrer. We expected that.

sgtclub 10-01-2004 01:46 AM
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Oh, I don't have NEARLY enough time to go there.
2. I actually gave Ty more credit that this. Guess I was wrong.

Adder 10-01-2004 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by bilmore
(Four years of one-sided "liar, stoopid, monkeyface, evil, Hitler" may be fun for one side. Now, finally, it's fun for us, too. The idea of any Dem decrying the "politics of personal destruction" is just such a hoot.)
Really? I have never undestood how people think that this is something that the dems do more than the republicans. Did we miss the eight years of Clinton harassment?

bilmore 10-01-2004 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by sgtclub
2. I actually gave Ty more credit that this. Guess I was wrong.
He's just baiting me.

Replaced_Texan 10-01-2004 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by Adder
Really? I have never undestood how people think that this is something that the dems do more than the republicans. Did we miss the eight years of Clinton harassment?
Penske & Co. were a figment of our imaginations...

bilmore 10-01-2004 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by Adder
Really? I have never undestood how people think that this is something that the dems do more than the republicans. Did we miss the eight years of Clinton harassment?
No, I think it would have been more accurate for me to say "the idea of anyone decrying . . . " It's like "my opponent breathes AIR - you must not let him win . . ."


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