CIA Officer Leak
 

I'm too lazy to look it up, but its somewhere in this thread. I posted its text last week. Someone quite plainly violated it.

CIA Officer Leak
 

The problem, son, is that all your media amounts to 1 pebble of credibility. Vanity fair? A year ago it was publishing stories about how Bush stole Fla in 2000. do you think anyone cares at all about its "scoops?"

CBS news and Newsweek lies have ruined any abiltity by the media to do anything to Bush. He could start lynching guys on the white house lawn he finds disloyal. Press can't touch him.

CIA Officer Leak
 

It is not as simple as that, when you look at the statute. There is temporal element (I think the outee must have been working undercover during the prior 5 years) and there is an knowledge element. Based on what we knew when this was originally argued here, it is an uphill battle for those going after the leaker from a legal standpoint. That's not to say they won't try and it's not to say that they won't bog down DC for the next 3 years, but ultimately, I'd be surprised if there's a conviction.

CIA Officer Leak
 

You work for atemp lawyer services firm, Quit trying to make it look like you're hooked into the spy game.

CIA Officer Leak
 

Technical defense = admission in the court of public opinion. All anyone will hear is "Outed... spy... put her... in danger." That he didn't do so "knowingly," which will be his defense, is a trivial distinction to the public.

Ask anyone whether Michael Jackson's a child molester. "Of course he is." The GOP is already fracturing. People like McCain and Hagel might think its easier to get nominated by distancing themselves from, and attacking, Bush. If a few start tacking toward the center and trying to position themselves as moderate GOP candidates in 2008, Bush could be looking at a nasty mutiny. He can't fight back if the public views his most trusted advisor as a treacherous liar. This could turn Bush into a target.

At a minimum, Bush's teflon will be severely compromised.

But fuck it... he was a lame duck from any angle. The Dems have been killing his agenda for months now with their hands tied behind their backs. His legacy will be a couple supreme court justices and being ahead of the curve on a SS policy which will be implemented years after he's dead.

Oh, and he'll have Iraq. Whatever that becomes.

the Clintons
 

You are constantly saying that they did it.


And you believe that the innuendo is true. That's all I'm saying. You believe it's true, whatever your reasons. It's not a shtick, as Hank says in trying to defend you. It's what you truly believe.

If you don't, you would say so. But you can't.




Isn't it odd that, despite the most expensive criminal investigation in the history of mankind, no one has come up with enough evidence to support a charge against them -- even though the jurisdictions in which they supposedly committed their crimes, according to the right-wing psycho-babble, are largely controlled by Republicans.

Compare that to John Gotti -- enough evidence to support charges and convictions.


The nature of the people making the charges would be reason enough. You, for example, have already compared Bill Clinton to Stalin and Mussolini -- and that's just today. Given that, I wouldn't believe you if you told me the sun rises in the East. One believes the pathologic at one's own risk.

Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html
 

Your point -- I thought -- was that you haven't seen the terror network for which Iraq is now a training ground (and recruitment poster) funcitioning outside Iraq in two years.

Madrid seems to contradict you. The people who are sending foreign fighters to Iraq coordinated the Madrid attack -- don't you think?

CIA Officer Leak
 

I believed that based on the old facts. Go back and read the thread if you like.

CIA Officer Leak
 

Thanks for reminding me -- in addition to yelling "9/11!!!", the Wahhabi Repubs will blame the media.

CIA Officer Leak
 

Hank, the CBS News "scandal" was media navel gazing at its worst. No one paid attention to that story except the media, which likes to write stories about itself.

Karl Rove being shitcanned is a big goddamned story. As big as they get. And whether Rove violated the statute or not, if he is the source, he will be fired. Bush has no choice. He's got to kill Rove and quickly, to put the thing behind him.

CIA Officer Leak
 

But I enjoy using the hip, hypertechnical, supersecret spy lingo-type stuff. The chicks dig it.

Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html
 

My point was the Iraqi "breeding ground" has not produced any terrorist attacks outside of Iraq that I know of. Madrid was not caused by terrotists "trainded in Iraq". I have yet to hear of an attack that was coordinated by terroists from Iraq or trained in Iraq. So this breeding ground of terrorist claim rings a little hollow.

CIA Officer Leak
 

Isn't calling people you think crazy "wahabi" racist?

CIA Officer Leak
 

No but it is religious bigotry

Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html
 

2. plus most of the attacks in Iraq are suicide bombers. Sorry, but having the opportunity to do a suicide bombing does not prep you for more.

CIA Officer Leak
 

Please remember, too, that Plame's bailiwick was WMD interdiction in the ME. While W & Co were pushing the case in war, supposedly to control WMD, they outed a CIA WMD operative just to score some cheap and largely inconsequential political points. Regardless of whether or not Rove (or whomever) is found guilty, this is despicable behavior.

CIA Officer Leak
 

Maybe Sid hates Shriners?
http://www.seshrine.org/images/offjayroetgerald.jpg

Or a particular breed of Basset hound?
http://www.traffordphotos.com/assets...s/9M69D-11.jpg

CIA Officer Leak
 

If it was Karl Rove, I'd like to know why a political advisor would have access to that kind of information. I don't think he was made Deputy Chief of Staff until fairly recently.

CIA Officer Leak
 

If Whitewater taught us anything, it's that you don't need to be aiming for a conviction to get a good scandal going that can ruin lots of people.

ETA, plus, I'm pretty sure that if it's Rove, you guys will finally get your beloved perjury conviction. He's been before that Grand Jury a few times.

Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html
 

Thanks for clarifying your point. As far as I know the terrorists who bombed the train Madrid were not trained in Iraq. But who knows? I doubt that they were coordinated from Iraq -- I think they were coordinated from whereever many of the attacks in Iraq are coordinated from. Like a cave in Pakistan.

But really -- suggesting that this makes the "breeding ground" claim hollow? It took quite a few years before people trained in Afghanistan began attacking the US or Russia elsewhere.

And it's not like they don't have an abundance of American targets in Iraq. I don't understand why supporters of the war think American deaths don't "count" if they aren't being killed on US soil. When we invaded Iraq, did anyone anticipate 1500 American soldiers being killed by terrorists?

CIA Officer Leak
 

No. Wahhabi is a particular brand of a particular religion.

It's like calling someone "fundamentalist," only much more so.

And I don't only use it for people who I think are crazy. I use it for people who I think are fundamentalist, with a "those who are against me are evil and must die!!!" edge.

CIA Officer Leak
 

Nope, it's not that either.

Unless you are saying that we should embrace the Wahhabis, of course.


"Wahhabi" does not equal "Islam"

Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html
 

You have a point there, I must admit.

But doesn't someone usually plan suicide bombings? At least those that are effective?

(Are the attacks on US troops suicide bombings? I thought they were mostly RPGs and roadside bombs.)

CIA Officer Leak
 

I will stipulate to being a Wasabi Republican. I am not sure what a Wahhabi Republican is, so no comment there.

CIA Officer Leak
 

I think Jayson Blair is covering the story for the NYTimes. The liberals' paper of record.

CIA Officer Leak
 

That proves its not Rove. He'd never put his ass on the line like that. He'd be giving up a defensible disclosure charge for an indefensible perjury charge. Rove would never do something that stupid. Trust his fate to Time and the NYTimes? Nah, if he's been before the GJ, he isn't the leak.

CIA Officer Leak
 

Yes - it is that. Wahhabism is a sect of Islam, just like Congretionalists are a sect of Christianity. So denigrating them is religious bigotry. But then again, so is denigrating Scientologists, or our Hale Bop friends. But it is not a problem for me because I will openly admist that I have some religious bigotries.

Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html
 

I believe the vast majority of recent deaths have been caused by suicide bombers.

Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html
 

Are you suggesting that US forces in Iraq are facing a horde of individually motivated, self taught suicide bombers whose placing and timing are only seemingly coordinated?

CIA Officer Leak
 

That's not the only defence. Although we don't know for sure, it is very possible that Plame doesn't fall under a class protected by the statute because she hasn't worked undercover outside the US during the last 5 years. But I agree with you, if it gets to this, the jig is up.

Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html
 

NO - I just stated a fact. Sidd thought that most of the deaths were not caused by suicide bombers. I corrected that. It is not that complicated.

Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html
 

The argument has been that the war in Iraq was going to lead to more terrorist attacks against American citizens around the world. This has not happened. As far American deaths in Iraq, the prediction was the original invasion was going to cost thousands of deaths. The original invasion went much better than anticipated and the occupation has been more difficult than anticipated. But for being in a war for over two years, the casuality count is very low.

CIA Officer Leak
 

So "snake-handling wingnuts" is out, then?

the Clintons
 

No, I am just saying I am not convinced it is impossible. By comparison, as far as I can tell, Gore has never killed anyone or been the least bit complicit in a murder; although for alll I know he may have bored someone to death watching him on TV and they attributed it to natural causes.


No, I just don't believe that all of it is false out of hand. But you can believe what obsessively paranoidal defamatory delusions about me as you will.

Not on the case cited.



Actually, I think Hillary is the driving force behind the criminal enterprise; but Hitlerian than Stalinistic or Mussoliniish.

http://www.strangepolitics.com/images/content/12930.jpg

More slander. The Clintonistic politics of personal destruction has begun.

CIA Officer Leak
 

2.

CIA Officer Leak
 

So in others it is okay to denigrate the fundamentalists? Good, this is why the dems will keep losing the WhiteHouse.

the Clintons
 

I know the oft-quoted rule about mentioning Hitler, but how many internet arguments does one lose by actually posting a picture?

CIA Officer Leak
 

Ahem.

CIA Officer Leak
 

Geez. someone get Ironhead a playbook.

SHW is okay, and listen now, because you'd only be making fun of White Christians- that's always okay. I thought Sidd might have been insulting some Islamic sect, which would not have been okay.

The rules are pretty simple, but you do have to rememebr the basic one above.

Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html
 

Correction, homicide bombers.