CIA Officer Leak
 

I think this is your cue for another "Islam -- Religion of Peace" post.

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That term makes you sound like a goddamned rube. You're entitled to an opinion, and your shit is well thought out, but that kind of jackass sloganeering is below even this board.

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On US troops? That was my question.

Anyway, this is all beside the point. Iraq as a training ground for terrorists is not particularly important. It doesn't take a lot of training to plant bombs.

Iraq as a recruiting drive for terrorists is much more worrisome. And since more and more foreign fighters are leading the battle, that worry seems to be borne out.

Cue the "flypaper" theory -- but if Iraq is flypaper, then Afghanistan was one of those blue-laser bug-zappers we had in camp, and it seems that there were plenty more bugs leftover at the end.

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This attempt at Political Correctness I don't get. Isn't the term bomber usually imply that they are also killing people. So homicide bomber is really redundant. A suicide bomber is an important distinction, because a person willing to kill themsevles in the act is much more difficult to stop. Some who uses an RPG is a homicide bomber. But when there is a high death toll in a highly secure area, a suicide bomber makes much more sense.

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No, Sidd questioned whether most US soldiers since the war ended (ahem) were killed by suicide bombers.

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Whoa. Double Spanky Dangerfield whifferooski.

the Clintons
 

Do you believe it, or not?

You know you do. And you know that you've repeatedly said that the Clintons have murdered dozens of people, using colorful phrases such as "blood on their hands" and "their crimes" and all the rest.

You believe it, Penske. It's okay -- you have lots of friends in this regard. You don't have to deny that you believe it, and you don't have to play this game where you refuse to say whether you believe it or not.

CIA Officer Leak
 

No, but characterizing someone's view as "fundamentalist," or "orthodox," or "conservative" is not denigrating fundamentalists or Orthdox Jews or Christians or Conservative Jews.

If the characterization is simply a synomym for "crazy", then it is. But Penske, when I call you a Wahhabi, it fits.

And now that I see you rise to the defense of your Wahhabi-muslim friends (you know, the ones your President keeps hugging and kissing), I see that it fits even better.

Plus Now Slave Looks Like Valentine
 

You would do well to remember you are talking to the individual who invented jackass sloganeering on lawyer-type internet chatting boards.

CIA Officer Leak
 

A Religion of Peace and Tolerance, get the jackass sloganeering right already Gatti. If you want to get paid. Penskebucks.

the Clintons
 

Penske's problem is that he hates America so much -- I mean, truly and deeply despises America -- that he is willing to compare Bill Clinton to Stalin and Hillary Clinton to Hitler despite their enormous popularity. He loves the GOP so dearly, but hates the country and cannot forgive the country for twice electing Clinton.

It's sad, really. I love this country, and would never post a picture of Bush or his wife in a Nazi uniform. It's really and truly shameful.

Plus Now Slave Looks Like Valentine
 

Is it your position Daley didn't steal the 1960 election?

Plus Now Slave Looks Like Valentine
 

I was in on that

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It's not PC. It's being accurate. They are not suicides. Suicides kill themselves, its not about other people. It's about the person committing suicide. I could quote from my wife's DSM IV that I know have on my desk, but what's the point?

the point is that these Islamofacists are killers. They are commiting homicide. If they happen to die in the act that is just collateral damage. The intent of the act is to kill others. To say otherwise denigrates the memory of the innocent soldiers, men, women and children who are murdered in cold blood. Much like the Clintons' victims.

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I had a fucking point there. I'm sick of the fucking gimickry the Right uses in place of actual debate. Fuckheads like Anne Coulter make idiot jokes in response to real questions. Bill Kristol thinks manifest Destiny applied to foreign soil is a no-brainer solution to every problem. And all this crap - all these shit ideas - are sold to us wrapped in gimicky shit. Freedom Fries, Homicide Bombers, "The Cost of Freedom", "Operation Righteous Liberation" (or whatever they called Iraq war), "No Child Left Behind." This semantic fuckery is annoying. It clouds real consideration of issues and devolves debate into nonsense sloganeering. "My culture of life beats your moral relativism!" What does shit like that mean? Its pap, but its dangerous pap. We're stupid enoug; we don't need a second language of stupid slogans to degarde ourselves further.

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original?

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The point is that it makes no sense -- someone who blows himself up is a homicide bomber, but someone who just blows up other people is not?

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2. A real good friend of mind committed suicide. He was in his parents garage with his car on, a big glass of scotch and sinatra playing.

The guy who walks onto a Jerusalem bus and sits next to a mom and her kids before blowing himself up is doing it to kill, not to kill himself. His dying isn't the goal, it's just worth it to him.

the Clintons
 

I have stated my position. You will distort it for your own (seemingly obsessive) purposes. This is classique Clintonesque politics of destruction Chapter 7. For the record, much like Danny Casalaro***, if I turn up dead in the near future, do not believe it was suicide.


***Danny Casalaro: Danny was a free-lance reporter and writer who was investigating the "October Surprise", INSLAW and BCCI. Danny was found dead in a bathtub in a Sheraton Hotel room in Martinsburg, West Virginia. Danny was staying at the hotel while keeping appointments in the DC area pertinent to his investigation. He was found with his wrists slashed. At least one, and possibly both of his wrists were cut 10 times. All of his research materials were missing and have never been recovered. Danny had warned his family that he'd learned too much, and that "they" would try to get him and not to believe it was suicide if he turned up dead.

CIA Officer Leak
 

I assume you drive Prius?

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But he commits suicide in the process. The suicide aspect is the one characteristic of the bombing that makes it different from other bombings. It makes sense for the defining characteristic of an act to actually define that act.

Plus Now Slave Looks Like Valentine
 

lactation lover was originally ghost of vince foster and I changed the name, explaining that post from that poster.

the Clintons
 

I'm sorry, I must have missed that post.

How many people do you believe Bill and Hillary murdered?

How many people do you believe they ordered killed?



Let's see if you can answer with the "well, see, nothing is really impossible, and no one's ever accused me of murder and since they've been accused a lot of times, well, then" bullshit. My bet is you can't.

Pathetic. You hate your country, and you don't even have the balls to take a position on something so basic.

Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html
 

And my best friend blew his brains out in a shooting gallery. So what? No one is questioning that suicide bombers are scum, murderers, etc. But calling them "homicide bombers" is meaningless because it fails to distinguish them from anyone else who kills people with bombs.

the Clintons
 

You're close, I hate how they defecated on the office of the Presidency. Other than that you are wrong, and I am surprised you would accuse me of hatred, as in my personal life the only hatred I really ever witness is the left's hatred of Bush. It's on the tip of their tongues, on their screensavers, on the bumperstickers of their Volkswagon Vanagons. What is really shameful to me is when I see you guys teach your children that it's okay to hate people for their political beliefs. At the same time the liberal hypocrates talk their PC/anti-bias/tolerance message out of the other side of their mouth. Fascinating stuff. I guess its the compromise you have to reach when Byrd is the conscience of your party.

Can you drink a glass of water and talk out of both sides at the same time?

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You've got to be kidding me, the left has run a campaign of slander for the last 5 years based on the premise that Bush is a dummy. All the things you cited are just the response.

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they are both killers. It is a disservice to the memories of the victims to pretend its a suicide. It is not. It is homicide. Whether you stick in the bomber part or not is irrelevant.

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A friend of mine jumped in front of a train. He committed suicide. The guy blowing himself up on the bus - he's committing suicide also. But he's also bombing something. Hence, suicide bombing.

If you like homicide bombing, you'll like these as well:

Active exercise
Metabolic breathing
Moving ambulation
Oral cunnilingus
Oral fellatio
Anal defecation

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I would think the intelligent thing to do would be to make them all just 'bombing' rather than substituting 'homicide' for 'suicide.' Though, having 'suicide' on there does mean you can skip this portion of the discussion:

A: "So did they catch the person who bombed that bus?"
B: "No, s/he blew him/herself up when the bomb went off."
A: "Wow, how ironic. What a fuckup!"
B: "No, s/he blew him/herself up on purpose -- hid the bomb on his/her body."
A: "Man, those towelheads are craaaaay-zeeee."

the Clintons
 

LOL.

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Why? the suicide is not integral to the act. If the bomb went off and the mother and child died but the bomber lived by virtue of some fluke, it would still be what it is cold blooded murder. As Hank noted, the death of the killer is incidental.

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Right. Ann Coulter appeared on the scene only after W won the Republican nomination in 2000. Silly sebby to think otherwise.

the Clintons
 

What's the part that is so basic. I don't necessarily believe that they killed anyone, but I think that there is some compelling evidence that they could have been involved in some non-accidental deaths. Until all the evidence that is out there come to light they are, in my mind, just persons of interest. Like Joran Vandersloot and those Arubian brothers.

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Right. And that's why we didn't have a different name for Japanese pilots who flew their explosive-laden planes into US ships during World War II. My father just talked about "the Japanese air force bombing attacks" he saw off Iwo Jima in 1945.

It is easier to prevent an attacker who is trying to live to fight another day. Not as easy to prevent one who is the bomb delivery system and the detonating device.

Mourning the Farce of July -- Iraq & Amerika: http://www.bushflash.com/pax.html
 

why do you feel the need to distinguish, other than that they have brainwashed you to be sympathetic to their cause and go along with their PC characterization?

For Hello
 

There are some really awesome Google Maps hacks, including ones that do all the real estate (sale and rental) listings on Craigslist. Google "craigslist real estate google maps" for that one, and screw around with googles for "google maps" to find more.

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I could handle that compromise. Seems fair.

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My understanding is that they're considered martyrs by the assholes that recruit them to blow up busses and cafes and police stations. That they're expecting to die for the cause makes them more difficult to stop than the more self-preservation oriented.

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Oh. but my friend, say he has a lab and instead of sucking CO2 he decided to build a bomb and blow himself up, in a field far away from everyone. What's he?

the Clintons
 

That's because of where you live. Doubly sad, and doubly pathetic -- you hate not only your country, but your corner of it.

How else can one describe anyone who truly believes that the person Americans twice elected President, and who was more popular at the end of his presidency than even Reagan, can be compared to Stalin? Or is a murderer?