Every one of the 17000 was as dead as any of the 500000. Atti's point would be That just because there are more dead fatties doesn't make each worse then the DD- each drunk driver is as bad/ actually worse.

Not bob driving drunk taking the lit. liason from Pig's from the tit bar across State line is as bad as the dozen sober people eating donuts in theTim Horton's he drives by.

So fat is bad to talk about, but Robins are pretty. Today I saw a Robin eating a worm. Did anyone see a robin or another bird today? how's the weather there?

But those "homicide" numbers have dropped drastically b/c of legal deterrents.

And further to the point, not all drunks get into their cars and drive home. That had to be the most ignorant thing Atticus has ever said, and he doesntt seem prone to ignorance. He is pretty strong on the Jesus, maybe he shoudl stick with that.

They could be padded like the bowling alleys when little kids go.

No, they just take the damn things, all of em, from about 1:00 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. every weekend.

I just spilled my manhattan....

You could use fat people!!!!

(But not the ones with glandular conditions or genetic predispositions.)

I think his point is, or was, or should be, that unless the hugely overweight person falls on you, it's not your problem, whereas the drunk usually is.

And not all fatties get in your way or drive up your health insurance costs. To the contrary, when they die of heart attacks at 55, they save health ins. and social security plenty of money.

But I'll suggest for atticus the following retort:

Let he who is without [self-destructive] sin cast the first stone.

You were being classist.

Which is not the same things as being classy.

Jonothan Swift just got a modest boner.

Not me, brother. I make it clear that we're cabbing it or someone else is driving, because I'm not. I drove shitfaced a lot in high school and thinking about it now gives me shivers. I won't get near a fucking car when I'm drinking. You lose your goddamned license for a year in this state if you get caught. Fuck that.

Say no more.

Economists, like Burger, assume that people act rationally. Why don't you assume that fat people are capable of exercising self-control, and eat until the marginal Cheeto is no longer worth the marginal weight-gain? Maybe someone who eats four donuts really likes donuts. In your case, the answer apparently is that you have your own issues about food and weight, and you are projecting your own issues onto the ample sides of the fat people you see. Just remember, the first step towards resolving this issue is admitting it's there.

I would suggest that your family's reaction, while effective in some respects, had its costs, too.

If I take two oranges away, how many apples are we left with?

That's a cute name for it. Not perfectly descriptive, I hope.