Who's afraid of Hank Chinaski?
 

Is THAT what you were saying? Oh, now I understand.

Less cryptic is a good thing. Man, sometimes it's like trying to understand my toddler.
:wink:

"Slow down, and take the binky out of your mouth, Hank."

S_A_M

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

you drop trou on a female employee there's a chance you'll get sued for harassment and if you get sued for harassment there's a chance you'll get asked if you screwed any other employees. Bush never dropped trou on an employee.

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

This is too easy.

He dropped trou on 1400 American soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis.

Talk about an assfucking.

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

as to soldiers- Watch Faren-hype 9/11- you do not know what you are talking about.
as to Iraqis- Watch them vote- You do not know what you are talking about.

when Alabama gets the bomb -- who's next?
 

You don't know that. But the GOP does manage the media much better.

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

Sorry. You're not changing my mind on the war. Osama is still out there. Billions spent and thousands dead, all for the wrong cause. Would it have taken 1400 dead marines to capture Osama? Doubt it. 50,000 Afghanis? Doubt it.

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

A non sequitur, but correct.

Clinton left himself wide open.

S_A_M

Kim Jong-Il: Illin'
 

Kim Jong-Il's well-documented ardor for American movies appears to be fading, thanks to a certain movie from Stone and Parker. Fuck, yeah!

• The caricature of North Korea's "Dear Leader", Kim Jong-Il, in the film, "Team America: World Police," is striking a discordant note among North Korean officials, and probably their supreme leader himself, despite his well-known love for private viewings of foreign movies.
  
  Word from Prague, the capital of the Czech Republic, is that the North Korean embassy there is asking the government to ban the film, the creation of Trey Parker and Matt Stone of South Park fame.
  
  ***
  
  A Czech newspaper, Lidove Noviny, reports that a North Korean diplomat complained that the film "harms the image of our country." He was even quoted as saying, "Such behavior is not part of our country's political culture."

http://dcmediagirl.com/uploadedimages/kimjong.jpg

Were I funny, I'd put a punchline here, but I'm struggling to come up with one that does not include the word "Brix."

When I see this puppet I still giggle, damn them.

We'll try to stay serene and calm
 

Given the reference to "tens of thousands" of Iraqis, I suspect he's talking about the ones who got dead before they could vote (assuming non-Chicago rules).

Bilmore's dream campaign
 

No more crying for bilmore, Gatti:

• Al Franken has finally announced he won't, as was previously rumored, run for Senate. Meanwhile, hundreds of reporters are insanely pissed they were assigned to listen to Air America all day.
  
  On the bright side: at least Air America tripled their audience for the afternoon.

Wonkette

What a soap opera.

Bilmore's dream campaign
 

this is at least funny-

http://images.blogads.com/obtufshbxl...humb?rev=rev_2

too funny
 

Unable to come up with a better test than the one club offered, The American Prospect launched a contest for an "elevator pitch" for liberalism -- in 30 words or less, describe what liberalism stands for. David Burge didn't want to leave the playing field to the lefties; here are some of his suggestions:

DAVE'S ELEVATOR PITCHES FOR THE LIBERAL AGENDA

• Feel how this elevator is moving up? That's what Liberalism is about: moving people up. Hey you zombies, stop looking at the door! I'm talking to you! About Liberalism.
• Unlike jingoistic Conservatism, Liberalism is complex and very hard to boil down to thirty words or less, but I will: The essence of Liberalism is freedom. And progress. And... wait a minute. That first part doesn't count against the thirty word limit, does it? I'm sure there were some hyphenates, and think I used 'it' and 'in' a couple of times, so they really shouldn't count. C'mon dude, do-over.
• I'll tell you what it Liberalism doesn't stand for: Bush. And you can just take that to the bank, mister. Damn straight. Mmm hmm. Okay, how many words is that?
• Liberalism means unfettered freedom of speech, relentlessly speaking your mind, without... hey man, you're getting off on the wrong floor! This is only 8! I saw you push 32!
• If not for safety laws passed by Liberals, this elevator would now be plummeting helplessly to the bottom of the shaft. And a fat lot of good your precious Jesus would do you.
• Even in your advanced gestation, Liberals stand for your right to a safe, legal abortion. You're not pregnant? Whoaaa, my bad. tch-tch-tch-tch-tchoot... I hate these uncomfortable silences, don't you?
• What do Liberals stand for? Just look around this elevator: braille buttons for the blind; official elevator permits; and this brave African-American passenger, finally freed from her slavemasters -- by Liberals.
• Liberalism means expanding marriage rights to gay couples like you. Not gay? Oh. I just thought, well, you guys looked, umm, tch-tch-tch-tch-tchoot...
• Liberals believe that everyone deserves a ride on the elevator of freedom. Let us now push each button as a testament to our commitment to inclusion.
• Let's move beyond the old tired arguments about who's to blame for the fart. Liberals, like me, want to work together to find a vent to our common elevator car.

She Got the Memo
 

She Got the Memo
 

Clarke is supposed to be an expert, but he can't even spell "Al Qaeda."

She Got the Memo
 

How does this show she got it?
Is CBS going live with this?

She Got the Memo
 

Read the flippin' story. http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB147/

You sound like a client's SOX auditors, who were asking crap like, well, how do we know that it was actually X who signed this document?

I mean, even if we had a videotape of a woman who appeared to be Condi looking at this memo, it COULD BE that the person was just a look-alike! Liberal media conspiracy!!!!!

She Got the Memo
 

You really are an idiot.
When was the last time you delivered a memo with handwritten comments?

She Got the Memo
 

Did you read the memo? It's a declassified document.

Whatever. It's not like they work at a law firm.

She Got the Memo
 

How do you find time to post when you have to bust through the little doors every 15 minutes to announce the time?

She Got the Memo
 

You an SS need to learn how to prove a point- you have a good url for a starting point, the GW page, but you need to go to the law school- then enroll- then pay attention in class- maybe then you will learn how to present a argument in a coherent fashion and so that your point are supported by evidence..

She Got the Memo
 

It was released by the National Security Counsel, a body over which Condi then presided. I don't really see how this adds anything to the main question, which is why did W ignore the threat presented by AQ until it was too late?

She Got the Memo
 

It was a really stupid question. Stunningly stupid. And I'm hungry.

She Got the Memo
 

The right spelling is http://www.docoja.com/dico/afggifg/0-0-al-qaeda.gif

Transliterate it how you want; if you want to get it closest to the phonetic Saudi speaker, it would probably be ael-Qi'ida, ael-Kai'ida or ael-Kaihida

But the "ael" sound is usually transliterated "al" and Americans aren't fond of mid-word aspirations.

Usually unusual transliterations is usually the mark of an expert in an area, since it lets them spend time showing off their knowledge of Arabic instead of addressing policy issues.


(OK, the site doesn't seem to have a multi-lingual arabic font - I'll try to come up with a .gif or .jpg of the arabic - found it - Ty, why can't we type Arabic on the PB?).

She Got the Memo
 

Yes, Clinton didn't ignore the threat, but Bush did. You go with that one SS, and maybe you people will retain 40 seats in the senate.

She Got the Memo
 

Do you really look at that story and memo and think, "I'll bet Condi never received that memo."? Really?

She Got the Memo
 

Hank, you have to excuse at least fringey - She is clearly a junior associate that has obtained just enough knowledge to be dangerous.

She Got the Memo
 

hint- always look at the date- 1/25/01- Bush had been President 2 or 3 days- which means "here's something we've been living with the past few years- we want you to worry about it also."

All this memo does is show Clinton ignored the problem. Of course what Bush did do was order a plan to topple the Taliban, which plan was final by the end of August of 01. Pity Clinton did not begin the plan 5 years earlier, etc.

You have to look at dates when you want to use a document- even Ty knows that.

She Got the Memo
 

I look at the memo and it appears to be in draft form, which raises the question in my mind as to whether it was ever delivered.

She Got the Memo
 

I'm not making any statements about whether it is reasonable to expect that the Bush admin would have jumped all over this issue based on the memo. I think everyone dropped the ball on this issue; it was a threat that didn't get the attention it deserved under either the Clinton admin or the Bush admin.

I'm just saying, you are fucking insanely retarded if you really think a reasonable question to ask about that memo is, "how do we know she actually got it?" And the fact that that immediately jumped into your mind, despite the source of the doc, is a fucking scary commentary on how brainwashed you are.

Now go review some docs.

She Got the Memo
 

What do you do when you review documents, if you don't consider the dates? I'm not sure I want some of you doing document review.

She Got the Memo
 

Clinton didn't ignore the threat, and Bush did. That's true. Tellingly, you care less about whether this was true (there are books you could read if you cared) then the politics of it. Nice.

She Got the Memo
 

How does that date establish or not the authenticity of the document? Remember, I'm not saying that she wrongfully ignored it. I'm sure she got a ton of memos from different people, emphasizing different threats.

I'm saying club is a brainwashed zombie for instantly questioning the validity of a declassified document.

This is stupid. Go get me a donut.

She Got the Memo
 

I see nothing on that memo that indicates it was in draft form, and I see that Clarke put his initials by his name on the "FROM:" line, indicating that he was sending it.

She Got the Memo
 

Bush stopped some of the effective tactics Clinton had put in place over the previous 8 years? You think that shit would make news instead of these vague warnings you keep pointing to.

Farenhype 911 has Dick whatever his name saying that if we had put the Gore commission recommendations in place in 96 9/11 would NOT HAVE HAPPENED.

She Got the Memo
 

Yes, and Clinton's NK policy would have worked if Bush just had the brains to continue it.

She Got the Memo
 

If we had only given it more nuclear technology it would not have used it?

She Got the Memo
 

He (or someone else) made handwritten comments on it - egro draft form. A final document usually does not contain hand written comments. I'm not saying it's definitive, but if that doesn't at least raise the question in your mind, I can't help you.

She Got the Memo
 

Hank, back to the point -- is your story that Condi, as National Security Advisor, was unaware that al-Qai'ida posed a threat prior to 9/11?


Isn't the right answer to this memo that of course we knew those things, whether we got the memo or not, and it was all a question of setting priorities based on the best available information, and, sorry guys, we screwed up, just as many had before us?

She Got the Memo
 

He changed the name to reflect who asked him for it before sending it on. Back when I worked in politics, we hand changed names all the time as something was being bumped up the line. There's a desire to keep things moving and less concern about form than in the average Biglaw firm.

Could it be a draft? Yes. But it would be more likely if he crossed out his signature and sent it back - at least that was the way I saw most people operating.

She Got the Memo
 

What you just said has been my position on this Forum from the start- with the proviso (sp?) that given the failure by Billy to take action AFTER prior attacks Bush had more limited options than Billy did- still what you said.

The other thing that needs to play into all of this is some understanding of how many memos she got per week.

Like the report from 95 about planes flying into buildings- okay that was a good prediction- but where they on 20 pages of paper in 2000 boxes of reports? I just don't see what any of this shows w/o perspective of how many scary reports come out per week.