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We'd be a lot better off in this country if people stopped speaking with their "hearts" and started speaking with brains. I'm sick of having to listen to people's "beliefs". Every idiot has a "belief" and thinks its as valid as science these days.

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I'm all in favor of improving. I'm just flummoxed at the politics, logistics, and the cost.

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The problem is that Kerry isn't president. When Kerry is President, him, Chicac and Schroeder will put an end to this sort of injustice.

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Well then, I guess he's my guy!

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I once lived next to a house full of Basque exchange students, who rotated in and out. I can up your sample size to about 12, and they were all furry. Even the women.

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No, as I've explained numerous times here to you, the reason that we don't win the war on Drugs is because we didn't declare war on you. Which is okay with you (Duh!). Do you cry for the kids in the poor neighborhoods racking up felonies? Noooo, just as long as nobody's coming after you with those charges, its all fun and games. Mmm, hmm. Like you have a clue about the war on drugs.

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shfm: "George Bush is one member of the younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed. Oh, he gets high, all right, but not from narcotics" -- is this a reference to his preference for coke and alcohol? Is speed even a narcotic? Aren't narcotics things that make you sleepy? Ditto on coke. Maybe it is just referring to his cocaine habit.

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Yeah, because praying is gonna get rid of a hijacked judiciary. The two aren't exactly incompatible, but Roe's not gone without federalism.

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Okay, Diane. Tell me. In fact, enlighten ALL of us. Explain to me how the US is going to fix the whole fucking world. Perhaps you could start by telling us all where you're going to find the tens of millions of troops it will take to invade the whole fucking world? Or would you rather tell me how much higher you are willing to see your tax bill go to pay for those troops and their supplies?

Or would you rather tackle the question of how the US suddenly dropping Navy Seals into Cyprus, Indonesia, East Timor, and Haiti, while the Special Forces and Marineas handle Turkey, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Chad, the Sudan, and the rest of Africa isn't going to result in North Korea, Russia, Pakistan, India, etc. into letting their nukes fly before we take them out too?

How many innocent women, children, and others are you going to find acceptable as collateral casualties in all this? Oh, and while you're at it, if we're shooting up the whole fucking globe, how are we going to keep the folks at home safe and secure? What about the economy when we can't export any good and services because we're too busy killiing everynbody and destroying their economies?

Pussy, indeed. Stupid fucking assclown.

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Explained: This was actually a quote from a Texas Air National Guard Press Release during that era.

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Roe would be gone if there were a constitutional amendment banning abortion, and that's not federalistic.

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and where did they get that idea from?

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You forgot Sierra Leone.

(spree: tough stuff to read)

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I do. I think it is awful. Most of them have substance abuse problems, which is a genetically-based mental illness.

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Are you sure its genetic instead of learned? I've read of polygamist families where the negative character traits of the several "moms" can cross to the children of the others.

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Actually, I do. Ever seen someone sentenced to 30 years? You know one side.

I favor legalization, assjack - no crime, no felony, either for me or for the kid in the inner cities.

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According to Kuffman, the Republican headquarters in Ft. Bend county have only given out 600 yard signs. The Richard Morrison campaign has given out 6000. Apparently there are quite a few Bush/Cheney signs next to the DeLay signs.

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Yeah, but I'm not talking about your dealer or your clients. I'm talking about you. There is no way it would be a big fucking joke if the war was declared on you (as a user) along with the dealers. I'll bet you lose a lot of sleep over the injustice of it all.

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From the written Sharia law, in the explicit descriptions and penalties for hudud violations.

Why do I think this is a whiff?

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hello recommended shooting, but maybe they didn't have any bullets?

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I did lose sleep over it. Its a horrible experience. It might as well be witnessing an execution. And I think the drug war is horrific in what it does to all sorts of people. Both dealers and users should be spared by legalizing it. But if you think I'm going to advocate putting my own neck in the noose with the dealers, you're nuts. Only an imbecile like you would think one has to put himself in peril to remedy an injustice. Your brand of moralizing is terrifically amusing - its like you never got out of 10th grade. So simple, so utterly void of alternative concepts. You remind me of my buddy's Siberian Husky - it runs straight in whatever direction its pointed. He thinks its genetic. I think the dog's just retarded.

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I'd expect that the numbers for FY1942 through FY1946 were somewhat distorted by the SECOND WORLD WAR. Winning the war did take up quite a bit of our GNP in federal spending. I trust you agree that was worthwhile?

(Boy, the Democrats can't win for losing with you people!)

S_A_M

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Because of Setting #2.

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Article from the BBC.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3738368.stm

The highlighted line is the kicker.
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Babies found in Iraqi mass grave

A US investigator said bodies were bulldozed into the graves
A mass grave being excavated in a north Iraqi village has yielded evidence that Iraqi forces executed women and children under Saddam Hussein. US-led investigators have located nine trenches in Hatra containing hundreds of bodies believed to be Kurds killed during the repression of the 1980s.

The skeletons of unborn babies and toddlers clutching toys are being unearthed, the investigators said.

They are seeking evidence to try Saddam Hussein for crimes against humanity.

Tiny bones, femurs - thighbones the size of a matchstick

It is believed to be the first time investigators working for the Iraqi Special Tribunal (IST) have conducted a full scientific exhumation of a mass grave.

"It is my personal opinion that this is a killing field," Greg Kehoe, an American working with the IST, told reporters in Hatra, south of the city of Mosul.

"Someone used this field on significant occasions over time to take bodies up there, and to take people up there and execute them."

The victims are believed to be Kurds killed in 1987-88, their bodies bulldozed into the graves after being summarily shot dead.

One trench contains only women and children while another contains only men.

The body of one woman was found still clutching a baby. The infant had been shot in the back of the head and the woman in the face.

"The youngest foetus we have was 18 to 20 foetal weeks," said US investigating anthropologist P Willey.

"Tiny bones, femurs - thighbones the size of a matchstick."

Mr Kehoe investigated mass graves in the Balkans for five years but those burials mainly involved men of fighting age and the Iraqi finds were quite different, he said.

"I've been doing grave sites for a long time, but I've never seen anything like this, women and children executed for no apparent reason," he said.

Mr Kehoe said that work to uncover graves around Iraq, where about 300,000 people are thought to have been killed during Saddam Hussein's regime, was slow as experienced European investigators were not taking part. The Europeans, he said, were staying away as the evidence might be used eventually to put Saddam Hussein to death.

"We're trying to meet international standards that have been accepted by courts throughout the world," he added.

"We're putting a package together on each body removed - pictures of bones, clothes, a forensic report."

Iraq's human rights ministry has reportedly identified 40 possible mass graves across the country.

The dig at Hatra, where a makeshift morgue has been erected, is due to be completed on Wednesday

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And only an asshole would make a joke about something that sends 300K kids a year in with felonies but exempts him for contrived reasons. But you don't want to talk about race and class, right? No wonder, asshole.

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She said that, but that's exactly my point too. You can't look at general 1945 expenditures as a reasonable comparison for Great Society spending.

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[AP] - And in a related story, in an amazing turn of events, the UN today, following an emergency session, validated the US attack on Iraq. "Well, they found dead babies in Iraq. And that's never, never happened anywhere else in the past. In none of the dictatorships anywhere in history that the US did not attack, was there ever proof or even a suggestion that there might be babies being killed. Indeed, once that line was crossed, the US had no choice. We apologize for standing in the way," said a teary eyed Kofi Annan.

"Now watch this drive..."

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I didn't make the joke about the drug war, I made it about you.

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I'm ok with someone saying, "This is what I feel from my heart, but I don't propose to know how such and such can or should work to effect it; it's just something I feel." It's when they start to "prove" their theories with tortured analysis that it just makes you crazy. (i.e., - don't feed the trolls).

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When you read this, do you feel at all bad about the fact that the U.S. was supporting Iraq when this happened?

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Sorry, I was responding to this:

, and the data didnt' go back to the 20s.

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What if the answer is, yes? Do they come back to life?

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I hear ya, but I think a lot happened between 1945 and 1946. At least, I hope a lot happened.

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If the answer is yes, maybe the conversation turns, for just a moment, away from the proposition, Saddam Hussein Was A Very Bad Man. We all agree about that, and yet some conservatives seem to think that repeating it over and over again is a useful for substitute for, e.g., trying to figure out what can be salvaged in Iraq or what we could do for Zimbabwe, or Darfur, or Sierra Leone. I mean, no shit that Hussein killed a lot of Kurds.

eta: My other point, of course, was that Hussein's atrocities against Kurds in the late 1980's don't have much of anything to do with the containment policy that DK and I were discussing, since not only were we not containing Hussein before he invaded Kuwait, we were supporting him as a counterweight to Iran.

http://www.ftlcomm.com/ensign/desant...ssein-1983.jpg
Donald Rumsfeld and Saddam Hussein in happier times

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Remember Guatemala? A US propped death squad killed nuns and missionaries there. Oh, or lets talk about the ITT deal in South America. Oh, and when did Saddam kill those babies? Before or after our aid to him ended? How about our favored trading partner China's nasty habit of selling the organs of people it executes for crimes as small as embezzlement. And lets not forget our good friends the Saudis, and their severed head collection, which they update weekly. When Shell Oil hanged Ken Saro Wiwa, did we condemn them? Fuck no.

Killing babies? Brother, we've been in that gig for a long time. Just because its indirect doesn't mean you're not culpable.

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If you were a representative user, I'm pretty sure society wouldn't have gone so far out of its way to create the disparity that benefits you. You are a lucky little boy.

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Actually, it reminded that Kerry voted against going to war with this savage back in 1991.

Switching gears, for all of you that were so incensed by those "they'll take your Bibles" flyers, are you equally incensed by this:

• Democrats in a race for a state House seat in District 82, are circulating a flyer that shows a retarded child with President Bush’s face running in a track race. The headline says: “Voting for Bush Is Like Running In The Special Olympics: Even If You Win, You’re Still Retarded.”... the flyers have been distributed for at least two weeks from Fitzhugh’s campaign office in Ripley, Tennessee. It also serves as the Kerry-Edwards headquarters.

Story and picture of the offensive flyer found here: http://www.traditionalvalues.org/modules.php?sid=1951

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Please. It's not like you guys gave a rip about these atrocities before he invaded Kuwait.

http://www.ftlcomm.com/ensign/desant...ssein-1983.jpg
Donald Rumsfeld and Saddam Hussein in happier times

Not equally incensed, since it's not an effort to mislead, but it's certainly highly offensive in its own way.

eta: So's this guy.

And what do you think about the GOP firm that was registering Democrats in Nevada and destroying the forms? Shouldn't someone be going to jail? Usually it's the GOP who are all agitated about voter fraud.

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I will take a stand here and declare that the flyer in question is in bad taste.

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In any of these countries, did the US first lead with economic sanctions against the country for 15 years? No. Do you not see how our sanctioning, and encouraging sanctioning of, Iraq has already caused harm to the people there and why we might have a responsibility there that is more direct than that of say, Chad? And why would we attack Indonesia? Their human rights record isn't very good but we have a good working relationship with their newly elected President. A far cry from the hopelessness of dealing with Saddam Hussein.

The only thing you have contributed to this discussion is typing out the names of lots of third world countries in the hopes that this whole "global thing" will seem so "complicated" thereby hiding the fact that you are in fact a pussy.

You mean while the men are off fighting to defend life and liberty? I suppose we'll have whiny little fucks like you there to protect us. Oh the Humanity!!

Hell, you're flummoxed at everything. That old avatar of you as the fat little boy was perfect. Buck up, young man!