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Not Bob 02-15-2005 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
There is so much insider stuff going on I can't understand half of what is being said. How long have you guys been doing this?
Some (like your law school roommate, though he's smart enough to usually avoid Greedy Politics) have been doing this since 1999 or so.

And even those of us who have been around a while are ignorant of a lot of the inside baseball type stuff that goes on here.

Stick around. Before you know it, you'll be picking up on two-thirds of the stuff like the rest of us.

Shape Shifter 02-15-2005 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
Why are we assuming spanky is not a sock?
First you don't read Clarke's book and expect us to summarize it for you. Now you don't even bother catching up on a (slow) day's worth of posts and want an explanation. I call bullshit. Maybe you can get away with it when you're POTUS; otherwise, people just think you're a lazy bastard.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 02-15-2005 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
I call bullshit. Maybe you can get away with it when you're POTUS; otherwise, people just think you're a lazy bastard.
people already think that. But I'm glad we take RT's word.

BTW, I've found that providing a parenthetical after a citation often helps advance the argument. Just saying.

Tyrone Slothrop 02-15-2005 07:26 PM

Today's Topic for Debate
 
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Originally posted by taxwonk
So, many social conservatives, including Alan Keyes, are known for positing that homosexuality is learned behavior, or at least that people "choose" to engage in what they deem a "perversion." Those people and many of their fellow travelers believe that legislating morals, at least to the extent of things like DOMA, sodomy laws, is essential to prevent the spread of homosexuality.

So.... How do upright, moral, Christian conservative folk like Dick Cheney and Alan Keyes explain their daughters? Cheney is acknowledged as having become more tolerant of gays than he was in the past since Mary came out. However, if the conservative crowd is right, then how could he have possibly raised hisself a queer to begin with?

Discuss.
At the risk of failing to STP, I'll say that I don't think it's fair to lump Cheney and Keyes. I don't think Cheney is particularly religious. He's a Wyoming libertarian, of the "live and let live" crowd. He may be willing to accommodate the social conservatives in the party, but that's not his thing.

Keyes is a whole 'nother thing.

Shape Shifter 02-15-2005 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
people already think that. But I'm glad we take RT's word.

BTW, I've found that providing a parenthetical after a citation often helps advance the argument. Just saying.
See, e.g., Burger (being a lazy bastard).

Tyrone Slothrop 02-15-2005 07:34 PM

All due Respect
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Look you're either a sock in which case I've kicked your ass here before, or you're truly new (which i doubt).
If he's a sock, how did he change? If he's new, where did he come from? Where, Hank, where?

Spanky 02-15-2005 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Funny you say that. I didn't realize how big of a loser I really was until I viewed it from an outsider's perspective.
Actually I was rather impressed that so many people could follow such obscure references.

Hank Chinaski 02-15-2005 07:41 PM

All due Respect
 
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
If he's a sock, how did he change? If he's new, where did he come from? Where, Hank, where?
RT says he's new and Ihave to be nice:confused: :(

Replaced_Texan 02-15-2005 07:42 PM

All due Respect
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
RT says he's new and Ihave to be nice:confused: :(
I didn't say you had to be nice. I just confirmed that as far as I can tell, he's a brand new poster.

Sidd Finch 02-15-2005 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I am a big fan of Dr. Rice, so I also have a strong bias.
Suck on my aluminum tube, bitch. You should have told me this before I sat down with you.

(Oh, and welcome -- nice to see you again. Wanna go for dinner with Slave's money?)

Sidd Finch 02-15-2005 07:48 PM

All due Respect
 
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Originally posted by ironweed
Unless you can show Hank polaroids of you standing in the primordial ooze as the lightining hits, you don't have a chance. But then again we know that photos can lie, too.
The irony, of course, is that Hank believed Iraq had WMD. Apparently, absence of evidence is evidence of presence.

Sidd Finch 02-15-2005 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Actually I was rather impressed that so many people could follow such obscure references.
You'll get used to it. It takes a week or two, but you learn to entertain yourself by posting just the word "Hillary" and watching Slave sputter.

Spanky 02-15-2005 07:54 PM

I think I just figured out what a sock is. I was confused there. Could you confirm to your collegues that I am new. And sure - I will buy you dinner with Slave's money.

Hank Chinaski 02-15-2005 08:05 PM

All due Respect
 
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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
The irony, of course, is that Hank believed Iraq had WMD.
so you're equating me to the UN- that's f'ing cold Sidd

SlaveNoMore 02-15-2005 08:06 PM

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Sidd Finch
You'll get used to it. It takes a week or two, but you learn to entertain yourself by posting just the word "Hillary" and watching Slave sputter.
Just for that, you get this...

http://www.mycardbuilder.com/jpgs/kerryfootball.jpg

Sidd Finch 02-15-2005 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I think I just figured out what a sock is. I was confused there. Could you confirm to your collegues that I am new. And sure - I will buy you dinner with Slave's money.

He's new, he's real, and he knows I can be bought.

Shape Shifter 02-15-2005 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Just for that, you get this...
http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...ing_finger.jpg

Sidd Finch 02-15-2005 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Just for that, you get this...

http://www.mycardbuilder.com/jpgs/kerryfootball.jpg
Did we ever have a caption contest for that one?

Mine is: "I just took a crap thiiiiiiissss big!"


(and who is that guy, anyway?)

Sidd Finch 02-15-2005 08:10 PM

All due Respect
 
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
so you're equating me to the UN- that's f'ing cold Sidd

It beats being compared to France.


I mean, not in this discussion, but generally.

SlaveNoMore 02-15-2005 08:21 PM

Is that the new photo in the entry hall of the French Embassy?

Shape Shifter 02-15-2005 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Is that the new photo in the entry hall of the French Embassy?
Hope not, or else Condi's recent visit to France would be no more than tourism at taxpayer expense. Or maybe W just likes leaving his Secretaries of State out to dry.

Spanky 02-15-2005 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Is that the new photo in the entry hall of the French Embassy?
Slave - Are we the only Republicans on the board?

Hank Chinaski 02-15-2005 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Hope not, or else Condi's recent visit to France would be no more than tourism at taxpayer expense.
Which makes it different from the last two democratic presidential campaigns how?

Tyrone Slothrop 02-15-2005 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Slave - Are we the only Republicans on the board?
Slave is a Republican?!? The GOP really has moved to the right.

SlaveNoMore 02-15-2005 08:33 PM

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Spanky
Slave - Are we the only Republicans on the board?
Hmmm. Let's see.

There is always Penkse

There is Club, and Hank, and Say Hello and often Aloha Hand.

SB and BnB appear to be the gun-toting wimmens

Sometimes BRC but she trends libertarian.

Less plays the fence.

GGG is a convervative catholic, but not much else.

Everyone else is pretty much a granola bar.

I miss Plate [sniff]

SlaveNoMore 02-15-2005 08:34 PM

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Tyrone Slothrop
Slave is a Republican?!? The GOP really has moved to the right.

It is 2005. I am a Humanist.

Shape Shifter 02-15-2005 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Hmmm. Let's see.

There is always Penkse

There is Club, and Hank, and Say Hello and often Aloha Hand.

SB and BnB appear to be the gun-toting wimmens

Sometimes BRC but she trends libertarian.

Less plays the fence.

GGG is a convervative catholic, but not much else.

Everyone else is pretty much a granola bar.

I miss Plate [sniff]
Who, bilmore?

SlaveNoMore 02-15-2005 08:40 PM

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Shape Shifter
Who, bilmore?
I thought Greediva finally retired that sock.

sgtclub 02-15-2005 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I thought Greediva finally retired that sock.
Is it time again for me to break out the tests?

Skeks in the city 02-15-2005 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Hmmm. Let's see.

There is always Penkse

There is Club, and Hank, and Say Hello and often Aloha Hand.

SB and BnB appear to be the gun-toting wimmens

Sometimes BRC but she trends libertarian.

Less plays the fence.

GGG is a convervative catholic, but not much else.

Everyone else is pretty much a granola bar.

I miss Plate [sniff]
Fly right, shitbird. I'm conservative.

sgtclub 02-15-2005 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by Skeks in the city
Fly right, shitbird. I'm conservative.
Really? I never could pin you down.

SlaveNoMore 02-15-2005 10:56 PM

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Skeks in the city
Fly right, shitbird. I'm conservative.
Is it Tuesday? Oh yeah, right.

the ghost of Plated's Socks 02-15-2005 10:59 PM

Pay to Play
 
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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore


I miss Plate [sniff]
He's waiting for Sanguine to cough up that dinner before he comes back.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 02-16-2005 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
GGG is a convervative catholic, but not much else.
Since I'm conservative today, let's talk gun control.

I'm fond of guns, especially heavy artillery.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 02-16-2005 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Since I'm conservative today, let's talk gun control.

I'm fond of guns, especially heavy artillery.
I suggest a move to New Hampshire.

Sidd Finch 02-16-2005 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
I'm fond of guns, especially heavy artillery.

An 88mm is the perfect choice for home defense.



Plus, it adds that little touch of historical kitsch.

bilmore 02-16-2005 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
I thought Greediva finally retired that sock.
Now I just pull it out for cameos.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 02-16-2005 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
An 88mm is the perfect choice for home defense.



Plus, it adds that little touch of historical kitsch.
The average 88mm is a nice historic gun, but I don't think it's appropriate for home defense. They are calibrated to strike at target too far away, and a bit on the slow side to aim since you've got to employ a bit of trig before firing. If a kamikaze pilot is heading straight for the homestead, they're great, but not as useful if a couple of tanks and an armoured personnel carrier are coming your way.

For serious home defense, I'd recommend a 90mm hand held rifle . Two or three people are all you need to operate (one in a pinch), and you can aim by sight. You can always keep the 88mm around in case you have anti-aircraft needs (though they're a bit slow for that and you probably want a battery instead of just one), but for basic anti-personnel and anti-armor use, I think it's hard to beat the 90mm. And, it has historic charm, too.

bilmore 02-16-2005 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
For serious home defense, I'd recommend a 90mm hand held rifle.
Testosterone-fueled cowboy foolishness. A four-acre yard with a well-planned claymore perimeter may not be as sexy, but it's all you really need.

taxwonk 02-16-2005 01:24 PM

Bilmore and the Loons
 
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Originally posted by bilmore
Testosterone-fueled cowboy foolishness. A four-acre yard with a well-planned claymore perimeter may not be as sexy, but it's all you really need.
Goddam. No wonder you're always in trouble with the animal control people.


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