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Replaced_Texan 01-23-2004 02:26 PM

Screw America's Sweetheart
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Whew. Thanks.

So your reviews? Mystic River was one of the best movies I've seen until the last five minutes, when I thought the wife's role was badly overwritten. The others you saw are all on my short list.

IMDB lists Uma as born in 1970. She seems younger than that.
I read Mystic River so I knew what was coming and it still blew me away. I'm pissed off because I know that they'll fuck over Sean Penn again at the Oscars. He'll be nominated, sure, but they won't give it to him. Every performance was top notch, and the plot moved along very well. I think they probably should have expanded a little on Anabeth's role before that last scene, though it was consistent with the book. It didnt' feel like Eastwood was getting in the way of the film. I thought it was phenomenal.

Almost everyone I know who saw Lost in Translation didn't like it, because they couldn't find a plot. I thought it was wonderful, and Bill Murray was particuarly good. Sofia Coppola obviously spent a lot of time in Tokyo and found really great shots and settings, but it was the intense relationship between the two main characters that made the movie. The dialogue was good, but the chemistry was even better. I think that people wait their entire lives to make a connection with another human being like that. It never got slow for me, and it kept my interest. I (and the reviewers) may be a lone voice on this one.

I read Cold Mountain before I saw the movie, and I think that probably ruined the movie for me. First, Nicole Kidman is too old for the role. Second, a lot of the more interesting elements of the book are reduced very heavily to be too simplistic. And most importantly, the natural setting is vitally important to this story, and a lot of that had to be dumbed down because they filmed it in the Czech Republic instead of North Carolina. There was a sort of PCizing of the Civil War there too, that sort of bugged me. Yes, the South was wrong, but this story should tell why the South was wrong for a particular person, not the whole world. I think that central theme of the story didn't play out so well in the movie, and it distracted me. The sets were unbelievable and there were some very good peripheral performaces by Renee Zelweger, Natalie Portman and Phillip Seymor Hoffman (who I think is a very good actor). Jude Law was good. I went in expecting to be impressed and left very disappointed.

Finally, Big Fish. I love Tim Burton, I love Albert Finney, and I love Ewan MacGregor. I expected to like this movie on a sort of fluffy level. After seeing the first three movies, I thought I needed something light. I didn't expect to be openly sobbing at the end and to be utterly delighted by it. It's Tim Burton-esque, with some fantastical elements, but I found it to be utterly charming and the fantastical elements sort of made me unaware that under the surface there was a real interesting story, until it suddenly hit me (and everyone else sitting around me) with a punch at the end. I thought it was a fantastic movie and of the four movies that I saw that weekend, I'd probably see it again first.

str8outavannuys 01-23-2004 02:28 PM

Maybe coltrane was right?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by spookyfish
I don't know exactly who it is. Hillary Duff is pretty popular among the kiddies, but maybe that's the problem, just like I can't see either of the Olsen Twins making the jump (sorry, Coltrane). If I were to guess, I'd say someone (who started in) television will make the jump.

Amanda Bynes, maybe? Come to think of it, she may suffer from the same problem as H.D., but at least she's smart enough not to sing.
The Hillary Duff thing is a great point, but let's go even younger. Lindsay Lohan (Freaky Friday, a bunch of other stuff) is unquestionably America's Sweetheart among the tweener set.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 01-23-2004 02:29 PM

dc music
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I not only dislike the Samples, I dislike most people I've met who like the Samples.

The No Miss Allstars are pretty good.
You can't beat a good washboard solo.

Replaced_Texan 01-23-2004 02:30 PM

Maybe coltrane was right?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
The Hillary Duff thing is a great point, but let's go even younger. Lindsay Lohan (Freaky Friday, a bunch of other stuff) is unquestionably America's Sweetheart among the tweener set.
I really like Alexis Bledel, who plays Rory on Gilmore Girls, and I think that if she doesn't get stuck in TV hell, she'll probably do well.

str8outavannuys 01-23-2004 02:30 PM

Screw America's Sweetheart
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Well, who really cares who "America's Sweetheart" is? I mean, there will always be a light-haired actress with a nice build and cute smile somehwere for the role, right?

What I want to know is, where is the younger actress that can play the Jodie Foster/Laura Dern roles? Is it Uma Thurman? Is she good enough for those roles? Someone else?
Now we've reached the Scarlett Johnanson discussion. Go see Lost in Translation and Girl with a Pearl Earing. Watch her win a Golden Globe award this weekend. Watch her win an Oscar this March. Go rent Ghost World.

Everyone should go rent Ghost World anyhow, it's a phenomenal movie. It's about two girls in their summer graduating high school, directed by Terry Zwigoff (Bad Santa) and based on a Daniel Clowes graphic-novel.

Replaced_Texan 01-23-2004 02:32 PM

Screw America's Sweetheart
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Watch her win an Oscar this March. Go rent Ghost World.
*psst* Oscars were moved up a month in an effort to limit the lobbying. Nominations will be out next week, ceremony last week of February. No March Madness finals right after the Oscars.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 01-23-2004 02:33 PM

Screw America's Sweetheart
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan

Almost everyone I know who saw Lost in Translation didn't like it, because they couldn't find a plot. I thought it was wonderful, and Bill Murray was particuarly good. Sofia Coppola obviously spent a lot of time in Tokyo and found really great shots and settings, but it was the intense relationship between the two main characters that made the movie. The dialogue was good, but the chemistry was even better. I think that people wait their entire lives to make a connection with another human being like that. It never got slow for me, and it kept my interest. I (and the reviewers) may be a lone voice on this one.

Plot is boring. Give me good dialogue over plot any day. See Rushmore, Bottle Rocket, Lebowski, The Royal Tennebaums, etc. No (significant) plots. Just great dialogue. Dialogue trumps plot in Pulp Fiction as well.

SlaveNoMore 01-23-2004 02:33 PM

Maybe coltrane was right?
 
Quote:

sebastian_dangerfield
Hey Flav - The Black Album was great. And Load had a few great cuts.

And Justice was about half an hour too long and proved that drunken metalheads shouldn't tackle subjects like the Court system and the enironment in skater anthems. Hetfield is no Joe Strummer.
Yes, the new CD from Hova is great.

Oh, you mean that dreck from Metallica in 1991? In that case, the "Black Album" makes a good coaster. "Load" could have been called "Load of Shit"

[It's still offends me that Mo enters to "Enter Sandman" while that jackass with the Padres gets a great tune from AC/DC]

You give Strummer's "politcal" nonsense way too much credit.

Hank Chinaski 01-23-2004 02:35 PM

Screw America's Sweetheart
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Finally, Big Fish. I love Tim Burton, I love Albert Finney, and I love Ewan MacGregor. I expected to like this movie on a sort of fluffy level. After seeing the first three movies, I thought I needed something light. I didn't expect to be openly sobbing at the end and to be utterly delighted by it. It's Tim Burton-esque, with some fantastical elements, but I found it to be utterly charming and the fantastical elements sort of made me unaware that under the surface there was a real interesting story, until it suddenly hit me (and everyone else sitting around me) with a punch at the end. I thought it was a fantastic movie and of the four movies that I saw that weekend, I'd probably see it again first.
I was at the megaplex to see something else, and at a urinal. Next urinal over is this burly, kind of nerdy guy who asks me if I'm there to see Big Fish. FYI to the women- urinal convo between stangers is rare. So I tell him no, and he launches into how he saw it a few days earlier, and he decided he had to drag his dad to see, and I should take my dad, and that it just a watershed movie for fathers/sons.
Still haven't seen it, but the previews don't make it look like a must see with Dad.

str8outavannuys 01-23-2004 02:38 PM

Side-project related question
 
Hey smart and clever folks:

Help me out with something, if you please? I need to come up with a name for a weight-loss camp for kids. Has to be evoke the idea that a healthy lifestyle change is fun.

Any ideas?

Not Me 01-23-2004 02:40 PM

Best News of the Week
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Dualit
May Limbaugh's words come back to bite him: "Drug addicts have no liberties and they should be locked up for years, no therapies since it was a conscious decision to get started with drugs. "
Cite please. I am no rush fan, but is there a source for this quote?

Bad_Rich_Chic 01-23-2004 02:41 PM

dc music
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Me
I would go to see Big Head Todd, if for no other reason, nostalgia.
Me, too. Probably too obscure to be remotely outable, but back in the late '80s I had a science lab with the guy who did lights for their shows.

He was pretty cute, in a scruffy granola sort of way.

To my knowledge, to this day I have not actually heard a Big Head Todd song.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 01-23-2004 02:41 PM

Side-project related question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Hey smart and clever folks:

Help me out with something, if you please? I need to come up with a name for a weight-loss camp for kids. Has to be evoke the idea that a healthy lifestyle change is fun.

Any ideas?
Boot Camp for Fat Little Fuckers

Sparklehorse 01-23-2004 02:45 PM

Screw America's Sweetheart
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
Almost everyone I know who saw Lost in Translation didn't like it, because they couldn't find a plot. I thought it was wonderful, and Bill Murray was particuarly good. Sofia Coppola obviously spent a lot of time in Tokyo and found really great shots and settings, but it was the intense relationship between the two main characters that made the movie. The dialogue was good, but the chemistry was even better. I think that people wait their entire lives to make a connection with another human being like that. It never got slow for me, and it kept my interest. I (and the reviewers) may be a lone voice on this one.
You are not alone. I saw it before Christmas and I'm still thinking about it. I went with the guy I'm dating and he'd seen it before and liked it enough to want to see it again.

It is a fabulous mood piece and it really captures the atmosphere of Tokyo -- kookiness mixed with sweetness.

What do you think is the meaning of the title?

NotFromHere 01-23-2004 02:46 PM

NFH of the Day
 
I was more of a Mister Greenjeans fan, and I really like bunny rabbit. Sad day for the Captain.
Captain Kangaroo dead at 76
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4038505/
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Co...0a.hmedium.jpg

purse junkie 01-23-2004 02:47 PM

Breaking News!
 
Captain Kangaroo has died! It's on cnn.com.


I am heartbroken. And to anyone who is considering a wiseass remark, I tell you preemptively to screw off.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-23-2004 02:49 PM

Side-project related question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Boot Camp for Fat Little Fuckers
It's put up or shut up time for paigow on this one.

NotFromHere 01-23-2004 02:50 PM

Breaking News!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
Captain Kangaroo has died! It's on cnn.com.


I am heartbroken. And to anyone who is considering a wiseass remark, I tell you preemptively to screw off.
My new employees are working out nicely. Good thing. Saying you're fired all day gets tiresome. I don't know how the Donald can do it week after week.

NotFromHere 01-23-2004 02:51 PM

Side-project related question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Boot Camp for Fat Little Fuckers
Cartman's camp for fatasses.
Carbs are for pussies.

notcasesensitive 01-23-2004 02:52 PM

Breaking News!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
Captain Kangaroo has died! It's on cnn.com.


I am heartbroken. And to anyone who is considering a wiseass remark, I tell you preemptively to screw off.
I thought he was already dead (guess I was thinking of Mr Green Jeans). I guess good news for him that he got in a few more years than I had thought.

Bad_Rich_Chic 01-23-2004 02:53 PM

Breaking News!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
Captain Kangaroo has died! It's on cnn.com.
Very sad, indeed, but I swear to christ I thought he died several years ago.

Maybe that was Mr. Greenjeans.

Dualit 01-23-2004 02:53 PM

Best News of the Week
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Not Me
Cite please. I am no rush fan, but is there a source for this quote?
That is a paraphrase of one of his rants that I recall, hence no cite. I should have noted that in the original post (and I will).

Not Me 01-23-2004 02:55 PM

Breaking News!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Bad_Rich_Chic
Very sad, indeed, but I swear to christ I thought he died several years ago.

Maybe that was Mr. Greenjeans.
Mr. Rogers.

Anne Elk 01-23-2004 03:00 PM

Breaking News!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
Captain Kangaroo has died! It's on cnn.com.


I am heartbroken. And to anyone who is considering a wiseass remark, I tell you preemptively to screw off.
FWIW - I dated a guy from Captain Kangaroo's hometown, apparently the Captain was a real asshole off screen.

paigowprincess 01-23-2004 03:00 PM

Side-project related question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
It's put up or shut up time for paigow on this one.
I don't give away free intellectual property . anymore.

Shape Shifter 01-23-2004 03:01 PM

Screw America's Sweetheart
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I read Cold Mountain before I saw the movie, and I think that probably ruined the movie for me. First, Nicole Kidman is too old for the role. Second, a lot of the more interesting elements of the book are reduced very heavily to be too simplistic. And most importantly, the natural setting is vitally important to this story, and a lot of that had to be dumbed down because they filmed it in the Czech Republic instead of North Carolina. There was a sort of PCizing of the Civil War there too, that sort of bugged me. Yes, the South was wrong, but this story should tell why the South was wrong for a particular person, not the whole world. I think that central theme of the story didn't play out so well in the movie, and it distracted me. The sets were unbelievable and there were some very good peripheral performaces by Renee Zelweger, Natalie Portman and Phillip Seymor Hoffman (who I think is a very good actor). Jude Law was good. I went in expecting to be impressed and left very disappointed.
I do not plan to see Cold Mountain - it looks like this year's Titanic. If anybody disagrees, let me know.

paigowprincess 01-23-2004 03:01 PM

Breaking News!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Anne Elk
FWIW - I dated a guy from Captain Kangaroo's hometown, apparently the Captain was a real asshole off screen.
I was on that show.

robustpuppy 01-23-2004 03:04 PM

Maybe coltrane was right?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
The whole premise of Reese ever being America's sweetheart/ingenue is ridiculous anyways. From 1999-early 2002, it was Julia Stiles. Now it's clearly Keira Knightley (I know she's not American). However, it's going to be 17 year old Mischa Barton in the not-too-distant future.
This is the wrongest stuff you have ever posted, and here we all thought you were the in-the-know Hollywood guy.

Mischa Barton is about as vacant as they come. I'd bet she couldn't even hold your attention for more than say, 8 minutes?, if she were naked and tied to your bed. The idea that she could carry a movie is absurd.

robustpuppy 01-23-2004 03:05 PM

Breaking News!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Anne Elk
FWIW - I dated a guy from Captain Kangaroo's hometown, apparently the Captain was a real asshole off screen.
FWIW, I dated a guy who worked on the Leeza Gibbons show, and he said she was a real bitch and everybody called her Sleeza.

But as far as I know, she's not dead.

leagleaze 01-23-2004 03:07 PM

Best News of the Week
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Dualit
That is a paraphrase of one of his rants that I recall, hence no cite. I should have noted that in the original post (and I will).
Take your pick.

http://www.unknownnews.net/031215a-lr.html

Bad_Rich_Chic 01-23-2004 03:07 PM

Side-project related question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Did you just call me Coltrane?
Boot Camp for Fat Little Fuckers
In all (OK, some) seriousness -

Maybe something denoting activity (Camp Zoom stuck in my head for some reason).

Native American names are always popular. Consider Camp Bi-oh Bisodih-Yahzie (Navajo for Less Little Pig)

Shape Shifter 01-23-2004 03:08 PM

Side-project related question
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I don't give away free intellectual property . anymore.
Hmph. You've never had a problem cashing your Cooters checks, though.

Bad_Rich_Chic 01-23-2004 03:08 PM

Breaking News!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by paigowprincess
I was on that show.
You invented that show.

BR(and when I make the joke, you know it's over)C

SlaveNoMore 01-23-2004 03:09 PM

Best News of the Week
 
Quote:

Dualit
That is a paraphrase of one of his rants that I recall
And why go with an actual quote when you can always make a better one up yourself.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-23-2004 03:11 PM

Maybe coltrane was right?
 
double post

notcasesensitive 01-23-2004 03:12 PM

Best News of the Week
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And why go with an actual quote when you can always make a better one up yourself.

I like to sleep with midgets.
You're right. That is fun.

sebastian_dangerfield 01-23-2004 03:19 PM

Best News of the Week
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
And why go with an actual quote when you can always make a better one up yourself.
Spoken like Rush himself.

I hope the son of a bitch gets treated like Ned Beatty in Deliverance.

Live by the sword...

bilmore 01-23-2004 03:25 PM

Best News of the Week
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Live by the sword...
Just based on your descriptions of your life and times, I'm not sure you're a real good candidate for a "live by the sword, die by the sword" credo.

Atticus Grinch 01-23-2004 03:26 PM

Maybe coltrane was right?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
The whole premise of Reese ever being America's sweetheart/ingenue is ridiculous anyways. From 1999-early 2002, it was Julia Stiles. Now it's clearly Keira Knightley (I know she's not American). However, it's going to be 17 year old Mischa Barton in the not-too-distant future.
Spoken like the guy behind the guy who's behind the guy. However, my vote and HEART go to Kim Possible. Once again, that is one sweet, sweet piece of cartoon ass.

BTW, do yourself a favor and seek out Gary Jules's cover of "Mad World." It's on the Donnie Darko soundtrack and is just starting to get radio play here after going #1 in the U.K. (<-- "I am cool.") If you only buy one downbeat low-fi piano dirge based on a Tears for Fears song this year, make it this one!

Also, I am in love with that video for "I Believe in a Thing Called Love" from The Darkness. If Peter Frampton fucked Freddy Mercury in the ass, and he probably did at some point, their love child would be Justin Hawkins. Cheezball glam rock lives into the new millenium.

greatwhitenorthchick 01-23-2004 03:29 PM

Breaking News!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
FWIW, I dated a guy who worked on the Leeza Gibbons show, and he said she was a real bitch and everybody called her Sleeza.

But as far as I know, she's not dead.
FWIW, I used to date a guy who worked on Pitfall when Alex Trebek hosted it (yes, he is a lot older than I) and apparently Alex is quite nice, albeit a little stuffy.

(and as far as I know, not dead)


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