Worst Film Accent?
 

I disagree. I think there is enough evidence (all the killing on the boat, the killing in the building where they meet kobayashi, all the other killings, the fact that the usual suspects were in fact jailed together, etc.) that his story really just substitutes names of actual people.

TM

Desperately Seeking Susan
 

I loved that movie (12 years ago). The identity stuff really resonated with me.

Keeping the Faith was also pretty cool in that way.

Usual Suspects
 

You beat me to the reply, so I will say -- yeah, what he said!

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Actually the last time a watched it (about 5 or 6 months ago) I was thinking that much of it must have been made up by Verbal because "the devil himself" would not have put himself in the places that Verbal claimed to be. It is kind of interesting to look at the various scenes ( I focused mainly on the boat scene) from that perspective. I agree with the person who said that it was a story made up on the spot (with certain pieces based on first hand knowledge of actual events and other parts based on conjecture by Soze), not just a changing of names based on items in the office.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Yeah, I'm thinking it was not the West LA/Valley accent differences, but rather the south african accents that sounded more australian. I'll happily forgive patsy kensit any of her accent transgressions, though.

Usual Suspects
 

House of Games


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It's been a while since I've seen this one, but it's a great flick. I have always felt the real merit in HoG was its exploration of the psychology of the con rather than the con itself. I have wondered, though, when they decided to pull the long con on her. The whole time, or in the aftermath of the leaking gun?

Usual Suspects
 

I totally agree with y'all. It's a sign of great moviemaking that both explanations are reasonably plausible and we are still arguiing about it all these years later.

Worst Film Accent?
 

Well, you can't really disagree about what was real and what was not when the folks who wrote it don't know.

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There is no evidence of the whole Redfoot deal, nor (I don't think) any evidence of the death's in Kobayashi's building. In my opinion, the entire California scene was made up. I think there is evidence of the New York "taxi" service, but no evidence that it was pulled off by Verbal and crew. For all we know, after they were released, Soze had them all killed and then blew up the boat himself. Verbal made up the entire story to perpetuate Soze's legend. He used other characters to make it sound like he was a ruthless, omniscient killer.

Also, he made up the story JUST to fuck with Kujon.

Edited to add that I put way too much thought into this movie when I was very stoned in college...

Film Recommendation
 

Wet Hot American Summer! No, it's not a porno. Early '80's summer camp spoof. Stupid humor at its best. If you're into that sort of thing. I'm generally not (e.g., I hate The Simpsons and Dumb and Dumber), but for some reason I loved this flick. Try to rent the DVD so you can listen to the soundtrack with extra farts.

http://www.wethotamericansummer.com/

Usual Suspects
 

And that the fact that y'all are arguing about it all these years later is a sign of something else, which I won't say until y'all leave the room.

Film Recommendation
 

I'm not sure how The Simpsons and Dumb and Dumberer get grouped together.

Usual Suspects
 

Usual suspects, blah, blah, haven't seen it, go rent it...
It seems to me that he'd want to stay as close to real events as possible, because he wasn't sure what the cops knew and what they didn't. Any of the following basic facts could be verified: hijacking of gun parts, subsequent shake down line up, relationship between Dean Keaton and Edie, hit on the New York's Finest Taxi Service and theft of diamonds, diamonds (and the group) showing up in LA, hit in the parking garage, bodies of Kobayashi body guards, Fenster's body, bodies from the boat, lack of drugs, presence of the identifiying guy that they were buying, and lack of (I imagine) money. Verbal/Soze had to weave a story that accommodated those facts, just in case the police found out about them, like they found out about Soze's involvment. Certainly he didn't bring up Soze until Kujan did, but I think that the basic structure of Verbal's story plays out with what really happened, because if it didn't, and the police knew something that he didn't explain in his story, then he could have been nailed.

I love the movie because it's different every time I watch it. I think, though, that Kevin Spacey's performance in L.A. Confidential was more complex and more interesting than The Usual Suspects, and it pisses me off that he (along with the rest of the male cast) in that movie weren't even nominated for Academy Awards.

Worst Film Accent?
 

No question. But I didn't put much thought into whether it would be better with subtitles and would rather hit play than go through the dvd menu crap (that would be another way to say I'm lazy).

TM

Usual Suspects
 

He doesn't care whether they can verify it or not; he'll be gone. They never had the chance to unverify anything. Not enough time. Verbal/Soze knows this. He knows there is no way a police department in NYC can verify the specific goings-on in California in that short of time, for example. He knows they only can question him for a few hours. By the time they figure out he made up the story, he's gone. It would take them DAYS to prove him wrong. He knows they know NOTHING. He has contacts w/in the PD.

Own a piece of the Rock
 

Another bad movie - The Rock. However,

SAN FRANCISCO, July 1 — Now you can own a piece of The Rock, aka Alcatraz Island. The National Park Service has started selling boxed chunks of concrete from the federal prison that once housed Al Capone, George “Machine Gun” Kelly and Robert “Birdman” Stroud. THE SOUVENIRS, which cost $4.95, are available because the park service is renovating the decaying cell house and a guards quarters on the isolated island in San Francisco Bay.
The $7.7 million effort to stabilize the structure is the largest capital project on the island since the penitentiary was closed in 1963. Richard Weideman, a spokesman for the Golden Gate National Recreation Area, said park staff came up with the idea for the mementos as an alternative to ferrying tons of rubble off Alcatraz.

In other words, we're lazy and we're cheap. So buy rocks from us so we don't have to work so hard.
lazy asses selling crap instead of working

On the other hand - what a great Christmas idea. Hey mom and dad, I bought you a piece of rock that Al Capone peed on!

Worst Film Accent?
 

Don't you mean Scotch?