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Replaced_Texan 10-04-2004 03:21 PM

The fate of DeLay
 
I am overjoyed to hear that Richard Morrison met his fundraising goal for the quarter ($250,000), and the DeLay campaign was running compassionate conservative ads on ESPN during the football game last night (something to do with how foster children won't be loved unless he's elected), so it seems like he's taking this campaign seriously.

With the Travis County indictments, the ethics slap last week over the Smith-support-for-Medicare-vote thing, the still-pending ethics complaint by Chris Bell over the redistricting mess, and now one of his former aides dodging a subpeona over misuse of indian casino funding, it seems that DeLay is taking heat from all sides. It also seems that the rest of the party (at least on a national level) is backing off from him. He was minimized at the convention; I haven't really seen him doing any local or national campaigning for the President (though obviously the presidential election isn't really a big deal here).

Some liberal blog (I forget which, and I'm not going to look) was suggesting in the last few days that DeLay is done in the Republican party. As much as I'd love to believe it, I think that DeLay is like the cockroaches he used to try to kill. He's an amazing fundraiser, and I don't think so many out-of-state corporations would have given to the TFRM if they didn't think he was extremely powerful. Any sense on how much power he actually weilds now? And if he is really on his way down, who is going to take his place?

Not Me 10-04-2004 03:35 PM

Utah rejoice!!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Well, it didn't take long for that slippery slope (that people argued would never happen) to keep on sliding.

USA Today editorial arguing courts should overturn anti-polygamy statutes based on Lawrence.
Jonathan Turley is a well respected constitutional scholar. I never had any doubts that the push to legalize gay marriage would lead to a push to legalize polygamy.

As I said before, it is time for the government to get out of the marriage business altogether. It discriminates against single people. Married people should not get more government sponsored privileges nor be subject to more government sponsored burdens than single people. To do otherwise is a violation of the equal protection laws.

sgtclub 10-04-2004 03:52 PM

Banging in my Head
 
Does the right to assemble include the right to bang on fucking drums for 5 hours and counting?

Tyrone Slothrop 10-04-2004 03:59 PM

Banging in my Head
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
Does the right to assemble include the right to bang on fucking drums for 5 hours and counting?
The framers of the Constitution certainly couldn't have intended that the First Amendment protect working-class people who are trying to organize to improve their economic situation. You should be able to call the cops to have them arrested so that they'll stop annoying you.

Sidd Finch 10-04-2004 04:00 PM

Gun control (register or don't)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Oh, I dunno about that. Extrapolating to the rest of the nation, it seems that all of the shootings in public buildings I can remember are by people who are not supposed to be carrying weapons. Like in gun-banning cities. Given all of this openness in VA, why don't any examples of shootings (involving shooters who lawfully possess weapons entering public buildings and unloading) come to mind?

Hello
You mean public buildings like the US Post Office?

Say_hello_for_me 10-04-2004 04:03 PM

Gun control (register or don't)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sidd Finch
You mean public buildings like the US Post Office?
In VA?

Say_hello_for_me 10-04-2004 04:04 PM

Banging in my Head
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
Does the right to assemble include the right to bang on fucking drums for 5 hours and counting?
No. Are you willing to sign a complaint?

sgtclub 10-04-2004 04:23 PM

Banging in my Head
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The framers of the Constitution certainly couldn't have intended that the First Amendment protect working-class people who are trying to organize to improve their economic situation. You should be able to call the cops to have them arrested so that they'll stop annoying you.
I just want the drums confiscated.

sgtclub 10-04-2004 04:24 PM

Banging in my Head
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
No. Are you willing to sign a complaint?
Yes, but it would do no good in this city.

Sidd Finch 10-04-2004 04:31 PM

Gun control (register or don't)
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
In VA?
Seems like that's happened in any number of places. And remember when a couple of 12-year olds shot up a school in some southern state -- Arkansas? And the sniper in the tower at a football game in Texas? The MacDonald's massacre? (Anyone know what the gun control laws are in Columbine?)

Free and easy access to firearms didn't prevent any of these killings. Your inability to identify a shooting incident similar to the 101 California massacre that occurred in a state without strong gun control laws has nothing to do with reality. It is simply your perception, dictated by your ideological view of the effect of gun control laws on the populace's ability to defend itself.

In other words, if you firmly believe something, it's pretty easy to convince yourself that the evidence uniformly supports you.

Hank Chinaski 10-04-2004 04:37 PM

Banging in my Head
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
I just want the drums confiscated.
Let me guess. You're a white male making more than 100K/year. Am I right?

SlaveNoMore 10-04-2004 04:37 PM

Banging in my Head
 
Quote:

sgtclub
Does the right to assemble include the right to bang on fucking drums for 5 hours and counting?
Are they protesting the Anaheim Angels and the Houston Astros?

sgtclub 10-04-2004 04:45 PM

Banging in my Head
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Are they protesting the Anaheim Angels and the Houston Astros?
Piss off Yankee boy. The Angels have on a WS more recently than you boys.

SlaveNoMore 10-04-2004 04:47 PM

Success in Aphganistan
 
And yet, according to Zsa Zsa, the Taliban is back in charge.

SlaveNoMore 10-04-2004 04:51 PM

Banging in my Head
 
Quote:

sgtclub
Piss off Yankee [sic] boy. The Angels have on [sic] a WS more recently than you [sic] boys.
You spell worse than DebtSlave. This feat is nearly impossible. Congrats.


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