Kos
 

1. Politics of personal destruction?!!? Sad.

2. Cite please?

Cite please?

Can Anyone Tell Me
 

On a deeper level, they harbor an extreme underdog complex. They'll excuse anything an alleged "oppressed" group does.

London Calling
 

I agree with you on that.

Kos
 

It took me about three seconds on Kos to find someone writing about the terror plot:

• 1) Terrorists genuinely exist and are trying to kill innocent people, regardless of anything done by George W Bush.
  
  2) Not all reporting done on terrorist attacks is produced in order to cover up something else.
  
  3) Not all reporting about terrorism designed to keep people scared.
  
  4) The thwarting of a major attack is genuinely newsworthy.
  
  Complain all you want about the shitty coverage, about the twisting of the story by interested parties, about the new flying restrictions, whatever. But don't deny the facts on the ground. It makes you look like a Republican.

As he says, don't deny the facts -- it makes you sound like a Republican.

Caption, please.
 

Hey Cindy, wanna talk to my little saw?

Can Anyone Tell Me
 

Sure the culture of victimology.

Kos
 

There's your very first post this morning on the subject:

• Looks like the Brits foiled a plot of "unimaginable horror". . . . The left will be the death of this nation yet unless we stop them at the polls again this November. At least this event will give us some fodder to contrast W with the Ds and expose the latter as the dangerous fifth column collaborationists that they have become...........

So, fortunately I could stop looking there.

Caption, please.
 

"With tools like this one, we're building a better Middle East."

Kos
 

Huh? What's so low about that? MY post frames the essense of what the debate will be this electoral cycle and in 08. Which party is better positioned to ensure our national security.

The average people of this country, which is more than a majority, doesn't give a flying fuck about the PC psuedo intellectual elitist crap that people like the Kos kids, Hillary, Pelosi, Ried and Neddy Lamont vomit up on a regular basis.

Why is this such a hard lesson for the Ds to swallow?

Kos
 

I think that's a very bold and honest statement for the moderator to offer to such a shrill group. I'm glad to see some rationality there.

Sadly, that encouragement is quickly eviscerated by the "comments" section below that mod's blurb. To call those commenters delusional is an insult to the deluded.

Kos
 

It gets worse, take a look at the DU. Of course all of these people are part and parcel with the MoveOn/MichaelMoore/Howard Dean crowd. The face of the New Democrat party!

Kos
 

Shorter Penske: This event will give us some fodder to expose Democrats as dangerous fifth column collaborationists. What's low about that?

Kos
 

Heightist fuck! Always has to be personal destruction, why?


I didn't say knowingly or intentionally, but I am concerned that a 20/20 hindsight analysis at some point in the future might show that the policies of naive restraint and appeasement as advocated by some on the left, all in the UN and most in Weurope will essentially amount to a negligent collaboration. Much like Lloyd George's appeasement of the Nazis.

And this is what the debate should be about. Let the public decide (with 04 as our guide I am confident in the greater wisdom of the American electorate).

Kos
 

I don't spend a lot of time on Kos, but I don't think that was the moderator. It was one of many diarists. That happened to be diarist at the top of the list of recommended diarists, so I went there first. The stories post on the home page were from early this morning. (Kos is on the West Coast. So is Hank, apparently. Neither of them have posted yet about this morning's attacks.)

The comments at lefty sites like Kos and DU and at righty sites like LGF are full of wingnuts. Relying on what these random blog commenters are raving about is pretty pointless, unless you are looking for illustrations of imbalanced behavior.

Kos
 

Those guys are slackers. This was breaking news at midnight last night. The only reason I didn't post was I don't post after drinking and I was having some Zin at the time.

Kos
 

If you really thought that's what the debate should be about, you wouldn't spend so much time calling Democrats fifth-columnists and otherwise engaging in the internet equivalent of trying to get zoo visitors to look at you so that you can sling your feces at them.

Kos
 

Wow, more personal attacks, although technically you are somewhat correct. I also think the debate should include lower income taxes and the end of the death tax.

Take that, Ned
 

"This should serve as the latest, most serious evidence that we are in a war against a brutal enemy that intends to attack us over and over again in the most indiscriminate way."

— Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn

Kos
 

Au contraire -- I hate the game, not the playa.

Take that, Ned
 

What about Michael Chertoff's performance during and after Hurricane Katrina makes you happy that he'll be responsibile for homeland security when this brutal enemy tries to attack us?

Kos
 

Fair enough. I agree with that, which is why I gave up on the game long ago.

Although the height comment was unnecessary.

Kum Bah Yah
 

You're absolutely right.

Let's just surrender now and get it over with

http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/...tVictoryTN.jpg

Hezbollywood
 

A good link to video clips and pics in regard to both alleged photoshopping and alleged staging of events that are going on in Lebanon.

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/08/10/hezbollywood/

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Take that, Ned
 

Apples and Cadillacs. But nice try. It's always amusing to see people blame the Katrina debacle on incompetence when it serves them in an argument on homeland security, then shift and blame the Katrina debacle on inherent GOP racism when it serves them in an argument on domestic policy. You can't have it both ways. Was Brownie racist or incompetent?

Take that, Ned
 

All the while completing ignoring and denying that the bulk of cupability lies with Nagin the Village Idiot, his higher up Idiots in the Governor's mansion and the decades of Democrat party rule and corruption in N.O., in no small part by the Landrieu family, including but not limited to the current Senator.

Kos
 

Wow. I was beginning to think, based on Penske's shrillness and Slave's idiocy, that perhaps I had hallucinated that.

Kos
 

And yet, you said it. That was my big complaint with the "old" Penske. You displayed a tendency to shoot from the lip without letting your words pass even momentarily through your brain. Apparently the condition is subject to relapse.

But feel free to prove me wrong.

Kos
 

What's your point. I clarified the statement. I think it is a legitimate issue of debate in the current electoral cycles. The rhetoric is strong, but so what? I would rather have strong rhetoric that inflames public awareness to the dangers of appeasement and ignorance of the risk than to end on the tragic side of the next 911 or worse.

If we had stronger rhetoric and more inflamed debate maybe we could have avoided 911, but the MSM in collaboration with Clinton was too effective at distributing the kool aid to dumb down the masses to what was happening.

Take that, Ned
 

He certainly was incompetent. You can argue about which aspects of Katrina reflect what sorts of racism, but that argument doesn't make Brownie or Chertoff look any better.

eta: It's only apples and oranges if you think the Katrina response reflected inherent GOP racism instead of incompetence. Is that what you think?

Take that, Ned
 

Ah, so you reserve the right to color it however you like for purposes that suit the argument. It's a little racism, a little incompetence. Like a little country, a little bit rock n' roll.

Take that, Ned
 

Still ignoring that the bulk of the blame falls on Nagin and the state.

Take that, Ned
 

Why do they have to be mutually exclusive?

Take that, Ned
 

What Adder said. Also, I don't feel like arguing about what racism is. Did anyone in the White House say, "The hell with all those blacks in New Orleans"? No. Would more federal helicopters have been sent sooner if a bunch of homeowners had been stuck on their roofs in an affluent suburb of Houston? Surely.

Take that, Ned
 

Houston is not as corrupt as NO so there probably would have been some resolution effected by the government entities that should be first responders, i.e. local and state.

Take that, Ned
 

Membership in the klan is one indicator, just ask Bobby Byrd.

Kos
 

Walks like a duck. Sounds like a duck.

Kos
 

I never thought I would say this, but Slave has my proxy on this one.

Say it ain't so, Joe
 

Any Jew living anywhere in the world can move to Israel and immediately beceome a resident and a citizens. A Muslim who is from what is now Israel, or who has relatives who now live in Israel can not move to Israel, cant visit Israel, nor become a resident or a citizen. For the occupied territories, millions of muslims are living under occupation and have no say in how they are governed (so much for the natural rights of man). Any Jew living in the occupied territories is allowed to vote and have a say in how they are governed. Muslims are not.

As for the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, those are direct violation of International law.

Natural rights of man? International law? Under these circumstances, why would you expect any Muslim to support Israel?

Take that, Ned
 

They aren't. But the Left conveniently remembers one and forgets the other when it suits their purposes.

Say it ain't so, Joe
 

Go back to 48, when the Israel and Palestine were created. From the start, while Israel was willing to accept international law, the Arab nations chose to ignore. Everything Israel has done since then has been in self-defense.

If the Arabs want peaceful coexistence, then natural rights and international laws, which they have ignored since 48, need to be acknowledged and respected. Truth is, they want genocide.

As for the changing nature of borders, there are plenty of Pols, Germans and American Indians who would like their former homelands back too. Should we address their concerns? Are they anymore or less legit than the Palis?