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str8outavannuys 01-09-2004 04:28 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Since nobody's asking, here's what I think about the Pete Rose situation:

I think this week in Pete's life should be studied in PR-schools as how not to do stuff. It's pretty freaking amazing that by finally coming out and admitting that he bet on baseball, which the entire world thought would be a very good thing for him to do, he's set back his own cause for reinstatement, probably irreparably.

Sad, because I was a big enough baseball fan at a young enough age to remember Pete Rose, even before his time as a player/manager.

As an aside, I have a memory of watching Joe Garagiola doing a This Week in Baseball game that began with Willie Wilson leading off the game with a home run (perhaps inside the park), and the game ending up a 1-0 Royals win. Who didn't love the late 70s Royals?

NotFromHere 01-09-2004 04:29 PM

The Apprentice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
It is if you like to laugh at the Donald.

He fired Bilmore.
There was a brown noser? Damn, I thought they'd be all "good looking enthusiastic back stabbers" as advertised on ABC.com.

ltl/fb 01-09-2004 04:29 PM

All it takes is Argyle?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Well, then, maybe PLF and I can coexist.
In the Land of Fu.

ltl/fb 01-09-2004 04:31 PM

The Apprentice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
There was a brown noser? Damn, I thought they'd be all "good looking enthusiastic back stabbers" as advertised on ABC.com.
You are confusing bilmore and G^3.

This does show that you don't read the PB, which is a point in your favor.

ABBAKiss 01-09-2004 04:32 PM

The Apprentice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Not to change the subject, but did anyone watch the Donald last night? I Tivo'd and would like to know if it's worth my time.
I saw portions of this only so I can't opine on whether it is worth your time.

Why doesn't someone say something about Trump's hair?

Why did they pick unqualified people who aren't even hot? That Troy guy is pretty cute, and I think one or two of the women are okay, but generally it is women who think they are attractive and dress in seductive clothing but who are really butterfaces and odd looking men.

notcasesensitive 01-09-2004 04:34 PM

How I learned to stop procrastinating and love the law
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ltl/fb
Those of us who are sensitive to case noted that he failed to capitalize the first letter of the second sentence. It's still Hank.

Edited to change phrasing so that I could be sure I wasn't making a hyphenation error.
Oh. I found that endearing. But maybe he was just sucking up to me. Subtly.

Fugee 01-09-2004 04:34 PM

lies
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Because it isn't necessary to completely cut yourself off from your past just because you're now with someone else. Because if you are quite sure that it will be harmless, but won't be perceived as harmless, there is no point in giving yourself the headache. Because if you're actually friends with the ex, they deserve more than to be completely cut off. And yez, no SO deserves to be lied to, but if nothing is going to happen, they don't need to be told.
TM
1. There are ways to keep up with an an ex who is a friend that don't involve lying. You could say to the SO "I'm going to have a drink with [ex], it's going to be mostly boring catching up but you are more than welcome to come. We're meeting at [place and time.]" If she knows she can show up, she is less likely to be concerned. And if the ex is truly a friend, why shouldn't she be friends with the current SO, especially if the SO is a spouse, not just the flavor of the month? If there is some reason you wouldn't want the SO to be there, maybe you're not quite so sure it won't be harmless or that you completely want it to be harmless. "Transparency" was the word of 2003 and it's a good thing to keep in mind with relationships you want to remain healthy.

2. There is a big difference between "they don't need to be told" and constructing an elaborate lie involving 3rd parties.

3. Sometimes you give up things you have a "right" to do because you love your SO and don't want to risk hurting him or her. As the "Love Chapter" (I Cor. 13, read at many weddings) notes: "[love] is not self-serving" or as another version puts it "[love] isn't always 'me first.'"

I suspect I'm not convincing you. But I do hope your example was merely a hypothetical for intellectual purposes and not something you'd actually do. But this all reminds me that, although it was the prudent thing to not tell my friend's SO about his spending time with the extremely hot woman when he was supposedly away with friends, I shouldn't have been such a chicken and told him I thought he was playing with fire. It's too bad it's so long after the fact that raising it now would be uncomfortable.

Dr. Fugee

purse junkie 01-09-2004 04:34 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
Since nobody's asking, here's what I think about the Pete Rose situation:

Didn't everyone lose their sense of innocence over baseball back during the Black Sox scandal? Jesus. He gambled, he lied, everyone knew then that he lied, everyone knows he gacked up the truth just to ass-kiss his way into the Hall of Fame, let him or don't but kill this lame controversy already.

ltl/fb 01-09-2004 04:35 PM

How I learned to stop procrastinating and love the law
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Oh. I found that endearing. But maybe he was just sucking up to me. Subtly.
He probably was. I am not subtle.

SlaveNoMore 01-09-2004 04:48 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Quote:

str8outavannuys
Who didn't love the late 70s Royals?
Every single fucking baseball fan that doesn't live in Kansas City.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-09-2004 04:48 PM

Observations on a Friday Afternoon
 
1. Sebby, it's not just the drugs.

2. I am rethinking my earlier conclusion that Paigow is a Traney (ntt... aw, you know)

3. Fringie's sarcasm meter seems to be broken. This worries me.

4. PJ is still missing a hyphen. It's starting to bug me.

5. SS is really the next PLF.

6. Penske's missing. Something's about to happen...

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2004 04:48 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
He gambled, he lied, everyone knew then that he lied, everyone knows he gacked up the truth just to ass-kiss his way into the Hall of Fame, let him or don't but kill this lame controversy already.
What's really odd is that it's like people are now pissed off now that he's admitted to lying., even though they all knew he was lying. It's like having to face the fact that your SO was meeting with an ex, so you get more pissed than just not knowing.

I say give him one shot at the hall vote, next year, and be done. he should have nothing to do beyond spectating with baseball ever again. BUt since baseball is a joke, he probably will.

Fugee 01-09-2004 04:48 PM

To Tell or Not to Tell
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
But I don't see how keeping something from you that amounts to nothing (and that you won't find out about) is such an issue.

TM
Mars. Venus.

purse junkie 01-09-2004 04:51 PM

Beer Will Make You Young and Pretty
 
even without beer googles:

http://www.boston.com/news/odd/artic...ti_aging_beer/

I am calling on all booze-loving chemistry-inclined FBers to do this palatably for wine and whiskey.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2004 04:51 PM

The Apprentice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss

Why doesn't someone say something about Trump's hair?

Your views? Is it the worst hairpiece ever? Or is it some sort of chemically altered natural hair, a la Jimmy Johnson.

Query: did Trump film all his scenes in one weekend? E.g., okay--send the camera crew up in the copter, and here are the lines for him to read.

And is that his actual apartment, or the one he's trying to peddle for $30M or whatever? Either way, it's the ugliest thing I've seen since vegas. add some cheap showgirls and it is vegas. JFC . . . talk about wasting a view.

purse junkie 01-09-2004 04:54 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What's really odd is that it's like people are now pissed off now that he's admitted to lying., even though they all knew he was lying. It's like having to face the fact that your SO was meeting with an ex, so you get more pissed than just not knowing.

I say give him one shot at the hall vote, next year, and be done. he should have nothing to do beyond spectating with baseball ever again. BUt since baseball is a joke, he probably will.
I just don't see why gambling keeps you out, but being a complete bastard like Ruth or Cobb gets you in. Where's the justice here?

Did you just call me Coltrane? 01-09-2004 04:54 PM

How I learned to stop procrastinating and love the law
 
Quote:

Originally posted by robustpuppy
I've gotten oohs and aahs from overeducated stiffs, too, but sitting at this desk trudging through endless documents has nothing to do with that.
C'mon, overeducated stiffs are silent in bed. Maybe a sqeak or two.

notcasesensitive 01-09-2004 04:55 PM

Observations on a Friday Afternoon
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
5. SS is really the next PLF.
It seems to me that you don't understand what being the next PLF connotes. Or you are pissed at Shape Shifter.

Oh and Penske isn't exactly missing. He's here.

purse junkie 01-09-2004 04:55 PM

The Apprentice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And is that his actual apartment, or the one he's trying to peddle for $30M or whatever? Either way, it's the ugliest thing I've seen since vegas. add some cheap showgirls and it is vegas. JFC . . . talk about wasting a view.
Done. Isn't that who he basically dates anyway? Oh wait...he says they're "supermodels."

evenodds 01-09-2004 04:56 PM

How I learned to stop procrastinating and love the law
 
I will answer Paigow's original question sincerely since I have a big case of loving my job right now.

Do something that enables you to have a measure of creativity or control. Better yet, creativity and control. Granted, I have a somewhat non-traditional practice, but I spend my days doing work I enjoy and I have the freedom (now) to only represent clients I like.

The drudgery of law enables me to do something I enjoy every day -- to talk to people I genuinely like and help them acheive things they could not without my help. Helping people make their dreams come true is a pretty great way to spend your days.

ltl/fb 01-09-2004 04:56 PM

Observations on a Friday Afternoon
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive
Oh and Penske isn't exactly missing. He's here.
Is not, you nutcase.

ThurgreedMarshall 01-09-2004 04:56 PM

The Apprentice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NotFromHere
Not to change the subject, but did anyone watch the Donald last night? I Tivo'd and would like to know if it's worth my time.
I liked it. Aside from the Don making the show all about him and his ridiculous lifestyle and self-opinion, it was entertaining. They had a guy on it who made the moron who sent that coverletter drafted like a complaint look laid back.

I will watch.

TM

Did you just call me Coltrane? 01-09-2004 04:56 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
I just don't see why gambling keeps you out, but being a complete bastard like Ruth or Cobb gets you in. Where's the justice here?
You can't change the outcome of a game by being a bastard. But you'll pitch Dibble for the 4th night in a row if you've got $20k on the Reds.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2004 04:58 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by purse junkie
I just don't see why gambling keeps you out, but being a complete bastard like Ruth or Cobb gets you in. Where's the justice here?
gambling on the games he was managing? No difference? The closest you could come in comparison is that Ruth was too fucking hung over to play his best, and thus undermined the integrity of the game,but considering even so he was better than anyone else at the time, that argument goes nowhere. Cobb was just an illiterate racist who spiked or punched everyone. If he played in the NFL, that would be normal.

the only defense Ross has is that there's no evidence he bet while playing, and it's as a player he belongs in the hall (certainly not as a manager).

bold_n_brazen 01-09-2004 04:59 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What's really odd is that it's like people are now pissed off now that he's admitted to lying., even though they all knew he was lying. It's like having to face the fact that your SO was meeting with an ex, so you get more pissed than just not knowing.

I say give him one shot at the hall vote, next year, and be done. he should have nothing to do beyond spectating with baseball ever again. BUt since baseball is a joke, he probably will.
Disagree. His statistics are so hall of fame worthy that to keep him out because he gambled is hypocrisy.

24 seasons. 3,562 games. 14,053 at bats. a .303 lifetime average. .987% fielding.

Charlie Hustle deserves the hall. That Pete Rose is a flawed man is unquestionable. That he was one of the few baseball players who played with heart and guts is also without doubt. I will not visit Cooperstown until Rose is there.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2004 05:02 PM

How I learned to stop procrastinating and love the law
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds

The drudgery of law enables me to do something I enjoy every day -- to talk to people I genuinely like and help them acheive things they could not without my help. Helping people make their dreams come true is a pretty great way to spend your days.
And, if that doesn't work, get a posse of incestuous friends whose hook-up antics make life worth living.

Greedy,Greedy,Greedy 01-09-2004 05:02 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Disagree. His statistics are so hall of fame worthy that to keep him out because he gambled is hypocrisy.

24 seasons. 3,562 games. 14,053 at bats. a .303 lifetime average. .987% fielding.

Charlie Hustle deserves the hall. That Pete Rose is a flawed man is unquestionable. That he was one of the few baseball players who played with heart and guts is also without doubt. I will not visit Cooperstown until Rose is there.
As a player he was a danger to others on the field. His play was disgraceful. Exhibit 1 is Buddy Harrelson. I'll let others submit the other exhibits.

Who do you want your kids to look up to and emulate, a no good corrupt bully like Rose or a boozing womanizer like Ruth? No contest.

Shape Shifter 01-09-2004 05:03 PM

Observations on a Friday Afternoon
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
5. SS is really the next PLF.
My legs are allergic to plaid.

Replaced_Texan 01-09-2004 05:04 PM

Observations on a Friday Afternoon
 
Quote:

Originally posted by notcasesensitive

Oh and Penske isn't exactly missing. He's here.
How was lunch?

bold_n_brazen 01-09-2004 05:04 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
As a player he was a danger to others on the field. His play was disgraceful. Exhibit 1 is Buddy Harrelson. I'll let others submit the other exhibits.

Who do you want your kids to look up to and emulate, a no good corrupt bully like Rose or a boozing womanizer like Ruth? No contest.
You are correct. No contest.

I want my children to look up to and emulate Britney.

Shape Shifter 01-09-2004 05:05 PM

How I learned to stop procrastinating and love the law
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
The drudgery of law enables me to do something I enjoy every day -- to talk to people I genuinely like and help them acheive things they could not without my help. Helping people make their dreams come true is a pretty great way to spend your days.
And we appreciate your efforts on this board. But you may be overstating the case a little.

bold_n_brazen 01-09-2004 05:07 PM

How I learned to stop procrastinating and love the law
 
Quote:

Originally posted by evenodds
Helping people make their dreams come true is a pretty great way to spend your days.

Fuck you fuck you fuck you.

Helping some asshole with way too many banjamins in his bank accounts turn it in to more and more money, all the while ensuring that no one else ever gets to touch his money....

well, lets just say, that's a pretyy lousy way to spend your days.

(and for the record, children of pharmaceutical magnates are the biggest fucking toads in the universe)

notcasesensitive 01-09-2004 05:08 PM

How I learned to stop procrastinating and love the law
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And, if that doesn't work, get a posse of incestuous friends whose hook-up antics make life worth living.
even better, ask them to live in a house and have their lives taped to find out what happens when people stop being polite and start getting real.

ABBAKiss 01-09-2004 05:08 PM

The Apprentice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
And is that his actual apartment, or the one he's trying to peddle for $30M or whatever? Either way, it's the ugliest thing I've seen since vegas. add some cheap showgirls and it is vegas. JFC . . . talk about wasting a view.
I loved that one girl that no one else likes saying "This is rich. I mean really RICH. I can't believe how RICH this is." [Shot of a hideously gaudy chandelier].

Hank Chinaski 01-09-2004 05:10 PM

The Apprentice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
He fired Bilmore.
Good one. This was the first reality show I ever really liked.

Hank Chinaski 01-09-2004 05:11 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by str8outavannuys
It's pretty freaking amazing that by finally coming out and admitting that he bet on baseball, which the entire world thought would be a very good thing for him to do, he's set back his own cause for reinstatement, probably irreparably.
i thoght the admission was what the commissioner was waiting for.

Did you just call me Coltrane? 01-09-2004 05:11 PM

How I learned to stop procrastinating and love the law
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Fuck you fuck you fuck you.

Helping some asshole with way too many banjamins in his bank accounts turn it in to more and more money, all the while ensuring that no one else ever gets to touch his money....

well, lets just say, that's a pretyy lousy way to spend your days.

(and for the record, children of pharmaceutical magnates are the biggest fucking toads in the universe)
I bet putting your breasts on the adult board would cheer you up.

Hank Chinaski 01-09-2004 05:14 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
Disagree. His statistics are so hall of fame worthy that to keep him out because he gambled is hypocrisy.

24 seasons. 3,562 games. 14,053 at bats. a .303 lifetime average. .987% fielding.

Charlie Hustle deserves the hall. That Pete Rose is a flawed man is unquestionable. That he was one of the few baseball players who played with heart and guts is also without doubt. I will not visit Cooperstown until Rose is there.
Of course he belongs. It's not a reward. It is for the fans, who do not see the greatest hitter now when they go.

ABBAKiss 01-09-2004 05:15 PM

PETE ROSE
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
I want my children to look up to and emulate Britney.
Granted, I am not maternal. But if my daughter bought me a $4 million house and several Mercedes, I would be pretty proud. Any child of mine is welcome to prance about partially clothed and lipsync so long as I am rolling in the dough as well.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 01-09-2004 05:16 PM

The Apprentice
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ABBAKiss
I loved that one girl that no one else likes saying "This is rich. I mean really RICH. I can't believe how RICH this is." [Shot of a hideously gaudy chandelier].
Do any of them like each other? It was like on-campus interviews at the beginning--all standing in the lobby looking around but not talking to each other. yeah, movers and shakers they.

but what's particularly lame is that they made the teams girls/boys. this isn't fucking temptation island, or even survivor.

couldn't they have had some fun and made it ivy league grads vs. self-made high school grad/college drop outs? it would have proved a lot more than the nothing that girls/boys proves, other than vaguely cute chicks are better at getting strangerson the streets of the NYC to buy overpriced lemonade made in Stomp-drums.


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