Traditional Values Coalition.
 

You get some interesting mail.

Forward the NRA email when you get that one.

Traditional Values Coalition.
 

You'll probably get a better response to this on the FB. I'll cross-post.

Traditional Values Coalition.
 

Not just the homosexual agenda, but the homosexual agenda to change america. I think that's more than just potpouri.

Traditional Values Coalition.
 

Should he perhaps Email back to the TVC saying he is not behind them 100%.

Potpourri. Christ you people can't spell.

Traditional Values Coalition.
 

When the gays change america, i'm sure i'll be forced to learn.

I think spanky learned his lesson. There's still an opening in Tuvalu for an ambassadorship.

I think W keeps Bill away from Laura. He has a track record of admiring women who carry a bit more up top than does his blushing bride.

I think W keeps Hillary and Bill away from Laura.

BC: "Ya know my wife? She likes to chow, if you know what I mean."

LB: "Oh, well I think its wonderful to have a healthy appetite. George loves to eat. He eats lots of food. I enjoy food also."

BC: "Uh, yeh. You ever seen Lincoln's secret cabinet? Lemme show you... its in his bedroom."

Could of, Would of, Should of......
 

Oh, quite whining. You promised me a referral if I called your stupid bet, and I went for it.

The Wingnuts obsession with Hillary.....
 

You know, if you read that stuff you're only encouraging them.

Traditional Values Coalition.
 

Traditional Values Coalition.
 

Damn, I really am a homo.

Could of, Would of, Should of......
 

And if you stopped hanging up on Frist.

(if I remember the story correctly)

Primary June 6th........
 

I spent three hours this morning strategising on how to get rid of Pombo. He has been quite a bad boy so it may not be as hard as I thought.

Primary June 6th........
 

In this country we spell it with a "z." Strategizing.

Primary June 6th........
 

No shortage of Republicans Behaving Badly in DC these days.

Primary June 6th........
 

Actually, crafting your strategery is known as strategerizing.

Primary June 6th........
 

To help out Spanky, he should review this footage of the SOTU speech. Rivetizing.

Primary June 6th........
 

The biggest problem is these stupid Gerrymandered districts. Every seat in California is safe, so the only way to get these guys is in the Primary.

The Ironic thing is that the liberals in this state (and the Unions) we the biggest defenders of the system that allows Gerrymandering, and because of it, it is very difficult to get rid of Congressmen (or State Senators or Assemblymen) who are even corrupt.

If I could rewrite the constitution, besides putting in a right to privacy, I would not allow legislators to draw their own districts and would require all primaries to be open primaries.

Primary June 6th........
 

I vote for these close minded, un-libertarian, big spending GOP pricks - WITHOUT QUESTION - because the only people running against them are blind to the enemy, and just as un-libertarian, yet bigger spending DMC douchebags...who are just as beholden to the Abramoffs of the world (47% of his payoffs), pussys that vote "for Alito", until they "vote against him", and have to send a 16 day-elect Governor with the Rock's eyebrow schtick to give a retort to the SOTU.

My party sucks right now. But as far as I am concerned, we have only one legitimate party in this country, like it or not.

And on that note, I retire to the beach. See you in a month.

Aloha,

SlaveWithATan

Primary June 6th........
 

2. The GOP is the worst party, except for all others.

When will the fucking Dems get over this fantastic belief that Govt can somehow fix the economy? Say we gave the Dems what they want - repeal of tax cuts. What would that do? What does taking money from people and putting it in the govt's hands do to help the economy? I agree that it theoretically provides more funds for states and the fed govt to provide services. But those services are not going to give the middle class new jobs. The Dems seem to be arguing - when they approach anything coherent - that the answer to our soft employment problem, which lies at the foundation of all our economic woes (and they are only going to get worse), is to put more money into govt services? How does that cure our problem with foreign labor competition?

BTW, wouldn't it benefit the economy more to privatize govt services as much as possible? If we need a buyer for our labor, why not make it Uncle Sam? He'd do a lot more good in that capacity than merely being a handout provider. At a minimum, we'd create more efficient services. Is there anyone who doubts a company, which has to make profits and run an organized, efficient ship, wouldn't provide better services more effectively than the govt? I hate dealing with corp behemoths, but at their worst, they move 5X faster than any govt angency I've encountered.

So there's some fraud when you use private contractors. Those losses are a fraction of what the govt wastes running a comparabale program.

Primary June 6th........
 

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Given today's budget, we wouldn't be putting in the government's hands, but would instead be putting it in the hands of the government's debtors, reducing the debt.

That would likely lessen demands for funds enough to pull interest rates down slightly. That's good for the economy. Probably good for you, too - assuming you have a mortgage.l

Maybe, but private industry is very good at what it does - maximizing profits - and not always as good at doing what government often does, which often has more to do with a specific goal like bringing electricity to the Tennessee Valley or providing a national park that preserves the wilderness. There are some things that may be appropriate to privatize, but it's not a panacea.

Maybe. Let's try an experiment, and start by privatizing your street. What do you think we can get out of you in the way of tolls?

Primary June 6th........
 

2. Talk to your grandparents or parents about regular Medicare enrollment vs. enrollment in the clusterfuck that is Medicare Part D.

Math is hard
 

Heh.

Primary June 6th........
 

You said 2. to the fact that privitization is not the cure for everything. Is Medicure D some sort of privitization gone wrong? Wasn't it the other way around where government stepped into something and screwed it up.

I have lived in four countries that had socialized medicine. And in every single country it sucked. I prefer our health system any day.

However, the private market does not provide health care for everyone so the government has to step in. I believe that the government should step in to make sure everyone has healthcare, but this step should involve as little government involvement as possible.

The probably with the Dems is that every time they try and propose a health care plan it is too government intensive. It is like they just don't get that when it is feasible, you don't involve the government.

Primary June 6th........
 

Compare and contrast Medicare Parts A, B and D and then discuss this with me.

Primary June 6th........
 

Why would I waste my time on that and why should I care. From what I understand D is pretty screwed up. Why do I need to know anymore than that. And isn't the fact that D is screwed up just an argument for less government not more?

Primary June 6th........
 

Part D is a public/private "partnership" and is totally fucked up. Parts A, B and C are all run by the government, and are not nearly as fucked up.

Medicaid, which used to provide benefits to the poorer chunk of people who now have Medicare Part D, was not totally fucked up, and was all public (run by gov't).

Thus, the smaller point is that when the "market" and private businesses were inserted into a system, it fucked it up. The larger point is probably that some things, like standard benefits that are to be offered to everyone in the whole country by federal mandate, are better administered by one entity than spread out among many.

Also, the state of CA (and possible also TX and some other state) are suing the federal gov't over Part D because it is going to be more expensive than what it had cost CA (and TX and some other state, and probably still more) to do the same thing at the state level, and yet the gov't is requiring CA to pay over a bunch of money.

Possibly what you actually want to argue is that Medicare Part D was a just a bad idea that never should have happened. I tend to agree with you.

I left out "You little shit moron" that started this post because while it is friday for me, it is not for most people.

Primary June 6th........
 

From what I understand Medicare is not run all that great. It is just that part D is a lot worse. Just because part D is screwed up does not mean all attempts at making medicine as private as possible are screwed up. Socialized medicine sucks. Does anyone really want the government to take over medicine. Do people really want our healthcare system to run just like the Department of Motor Vehicles?

Hospitals and drug companys need to compete for business. We need to help the poor etc. but we need to keep as much competition as we can to keep the quality of service up. Because without competition you get health systems like UK, France or Japan where the quality of service is beyond pathetic.

Primary June 6th........
 

Medicare parts A, B, and C are not run just like the department of motor vehicles.

Primary June 6th........
 

Is it worse or better? And if it is better, why is Medicare run better than the DMV?

Primary June 6th........
 

The military is run by the government. Do you think the military is run like the DMV?

Hi Hank!

Primary June 6th........
 

I plan to be dead before the issue becomes ripe for me.

Primary June 6th........
 

No, silly. You miss the basic tenet of neo-Con thinking. The government is utterly, shockingly, thoroughly incompetent and cannot possibly handle any task.

Except bringing democracy to the Middle East.

Primary June 6th........
 

Have you lived in this country without health insurance?

Primary June 6th........
 

She'd essentially saying that you are talking through your ass, and seem to be too ignorant of the underlying subject matter to have an opinion worth responding to.

We'll take that from Sebby, but the quota has been met for the month.

BTW -- the last sentence of this post confirms it.

S_A_M

Primary June 6th........
 

oooh! I know! I know!

The answer is "No, except perhaps for a brief period while in college".

However, he has lived in this country as a young (but now nearing middle-age) well-educated, well-compensated professional with good insurance, so his experience irrefutably proves that our health care system is wonderful.

S_A_M

Primary June 6th........
 

Do you ever eat at restaurants? Since some people are hungry should we take that money from you, buy basic sustenance and feed everyone? you'll be eating at a lesser level, sure- but everyone will be eating! or maybe you're just talking shit again because you're bored.

Socialized medicine does provide better for the poor- BUT- at the expense of the not-poor. And compared to what you've become used to it sucks really hard. You want your kids to have to wait months for necessary procedures- MOVE TO CANADA-

Primary June 6th........
 

Again, talk to your grandmother about Medicare.

Primary June 6th........
 

No. I am not here to bitch about stuff or to argue. I am here to help.

SAM says he wouldn't mind significantly lesser medical service if it helps other have basic coverage. I am merely suggesting to him that he be like me- quit bitching and help. If he had significantly lesser meals he could help feed the poor- real benefits right now.

And how many Xmas presents did he get his kids? share that too.


By the way- fun times:
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