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And too fucking ugly. The 7 Series is the motoring equivalent of a great big fat girl teetering around on high heels. Don't ask me where I got that image.

The old 7 was very pretty, and not a bloated behemoth by any means. They've shitted up the BMW line with those angles on the new ones.

A 3 is a wonderful car. So is a 5. Good, solid rides. But I buy all my shit used, from auction. I'd never buy any metal new. Car is the worst fucking investment on the planet. I'd lease, but the old lady puts too many miles on the rides.

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5 is nice. 3 is too small with kids.

7 is kind of cool looking like the back end is like a spaceship.

Like mercedes better tho.

everyone up near me drives an acura MDX they are sharp looking. not sure how they drive.

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I really like the Saab, especially for the price (cheaper than the A3, which I can't get for under $29.5).

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3 is fine with 2 Britax in the back, actually, at least for a second car. No running-around room, of course.

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Fag. Landcruiser baby. Its the shit.

"Canyonerrro!"

I've tried to sell it twice, but I can't bring myself to part with it. I just love the fucker. It's dinged, has a bunch of miles on it, but it just keeps performing. I never loved a car before this one. I understand why people keep them and you see them on the road to 200,000 miles.

Th gas thing... eh, not so good.

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britax? what are you consumer reports?

Just kidding. solid/nice carseats.

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My dream is a Range Rover brand new HSE. Never.gonna.happen. but I can dream

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I used them because they are monsters, size-wise.

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I liked the Saabs that I saw at the auto show. Especially for the price. Haven't ridden in them since GM (?) took them over, but they are sharp looking cars. No A3's, mind you, but cheaper and good looking.

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My 4runner gets 17 MPG around town, which is about what any AWD car will get around town.

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That. is. not. a. proper. truck.

I don't do Rover products. They are pretty, but that's about all. Cash pits for suburbanite knuckleheads who want to show off at Whole Foods.

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Those new ones are fucking nice. I dig those. Don't really dig the Sequioa, though. Looks like a pregnant Landcruiser.

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You say this like there is something wrong with trust funds?

Fine. Now you've insulted me as a stay-at-home mom and as a trust-fund baby.

Hmph.

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If it weren't for the Sedan thing, I'd recommend the Mini Cooper S. My sister just got one, and I'm thoroughly impressed. She was sold when she was test driving it at about 87mph comfortably in fifth gear on the freeway, and the salesman said "You know, there's another gear."

We (comfortably) fit three people and three dogs in it, and if you have a friend or family member who has an SUV for those every now and then trips to Home Depot or Ikea, it's pretty awesome.

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I realize you have no opinion and I guess I was not making myself clear. I don't care what you do. That kind of life is just not for me because I hold the opinions that I hold. And whether or not those opinions are valid for the rest of the world is really not my problem. Or anyone elses.

Today is not an "I'm going to attack Sidd's choices" day. (That's tomorrow.)

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Every time we talk about cars, I say the same thing.

My Saab was my favorite car I've ever had.

I cannot wait for my SUV to finally keel over and die so that I can buy me a Saab station wagon.

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I'm better than you!

Just kidding. lol

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Thurgreed thinks I'm pretty.

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Excellent. I was concerned for a moment.

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I can get you a nice deal on one, if you don't mind the odorless vapor eating away at your neurons.

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Sebby Sebby you know that even if I ain't pretty I *like* pretty. Not functional, not the best.ever. but pretty.

AoN the H3 commercials with the SAHM who the Westchester SAHM type cuts her off "we're next" at the playground and she goes and gets a H3 and it says "get your girl on" are funny stuff indeed.

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Coltrane is too tall for a Mini Cooper. On the internets at least.

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Ugh. So below the belt I told you I was kidding.

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I wanted a Sequoia a couple of years ago. I loved it, driving-wise (also drove the Volvo one and some domestics). Not as pretty as the Landcruiser, but given the difference in cost, I wouldn't even let the salesperson entice me into sitting in the Cruiser. Not sure I'd want the size of it now, but it seemed like the best of all worlds at the time.

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I'm pretty sure I've already killed off all my neurons.

And the Brazenette can fend for herself.

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psst. It's her neurotic streak again, talking.

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Coming from you, I take this to mean that I MUST BE PRETTY!!!

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No it means the vapors from the imaginary acid are going to eat away at my pretty face and my little dog too, my pretty!!! ahhh! sorry, the toxic waste from the broken flourescent light bulb. run! quick!

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This is true.

TM

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http://www.channel6.dk/Rover/pics/109RB37S.jpg

There are few manufacturers of automobiles that I would seriously consider taking off road. Rover and Jeep and maybe, maybe Toyota.

That said, you are right in that the suburbanite knuckleheads don't know what the fuck they have. Back when the Range Rover was (re-?)introduced in the US in the late 80s, early 90s a friend of ours brought hers to our ranch. She was afraid to drive it over a muddy patch of the pasture for fear that it might get stuck. No amount of proof could convince her that she had the best possible vehicle for getting through. I still think she just didn't want to get mud on her expensive car.

And the Discovery was a disaster of epic proportions. Not quite Aztec, but pretty fucking bad.

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Who was it that asked for a drycleaner? Maybe it was someone IRL but here is a link listing better/best ones in the city

http://www.bankersball.com/

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Yeah, well, it's been a tough week around here.

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Yeah and whose fault is that? I perhaps don't quit/brawl but you pile on for no reason.

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They are damn good for going on safari in though. I have never been so impressed with a vehicle in my life than I was with the Land Rover than got us through some incredibly treacherous terrain in Africa. Much more than pretty.

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Um, perhaps, and this is just a suggestion, every single remark does not require comment.

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My sister has a Mini Cooper S too. When she was in town a few weeks ago, I drove it. Great fun to drive.

But fitting three people and three dogs comfortably? Those had to be some smallish people and some smallish dogs. For me, it's easy enough to move the front seat to get comfortable, but it pretty much robs any room for anyone in the backseat who isn't from Lilliput.

And I'm not 6'11 like Hank, either. On the internets or otherwise.

(ETA re: ncs' comment. I am, however, as tall as Coltrane on the internets. I would say there is certainly enough headroom/legroom for someone my height, given my prior caveat. The biggest challenge w/r/t the Mini, at least for me, was having to climb up to exit a vehicle, instead of climb down. That's either because I am A) brittle, or 2) out of practice.)

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With the exception of the 22 pound Puppy (who was sitting on my lap) none of us are tiny. The Displaced Dog and my sister's lab shared one seat, and I sat in the other. It was a lot roomier than a lot of sedans that I've sat in. I will say though that rode in the back to go see Snakes on a Plane behind a very large friend who had recently broken his foot. He pushed the seat all the way back and my legs pretty much had to abandon that side of the car.

Hands down, though, the most surprisingly roomy vehicle I've ever been in was a friend from college's 1972 VW Rabbit (diesel). She was the only one in our group of friends with a car, and three of us used to pile in the back without a problem at all. That was an awesome car. It got something like 52 mpg, which was probably good because it was a pain in the ass to find feul for it.

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Trust fund?

Fuck, we ALL think you're pretty :waggle:

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I was talking about the SL. Can I get one if I just need hair plugs?

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Only if the driver has really short legs. I can put one kid in the back, not two, unless I want my elbows and knees practically resting on the wheel.