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SlaveNoMore 08-24-2006 06:52 PM

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sebastian_dangerfield
Congrats. The Jews in the Attic thing had to be the strangest reference I've seen in a while.
You don't have an attic either?

sebastian_dangerfield 08-24-2006 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I don't want to get too sappy here, but most posts I scan. Sometimes I read yours two or three times.
Since we're professing mutual love, I always read yours on PB. I second gwinky's position on you... You're reasonable and come at issues from sensible, well thought out positions. Although this board would appear to eschew those qualities, its actually in dire need of them, as a scan of the last week proves (although it remains the most entertaining in a long time). You should stay here.

Go both ways, like Hank.

ETA: And I respect the fact that you're one of the very few people on PB who isn's wearing blinders. You lean conservative, but in a realistic, pargmatic fashion. I can't even really call you partisan, which is a compliment.

Hank Chinaski 08-24-2006 06:53 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
We could just use your kind of flavor around here. That is all I am saying.
Everyone. Spanky is used to having his very own board. He's come to expect a certian level of attention. We ALL need to make him feel welcome if you want to convince him to stay.

SlaveNoMore 08-24-2006 06:53 PM

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ThurgreedMarshall
We have people there too.

TM
Is the "we" is this sentence a reference to "city dwellers", "blacks" or "gays"?

Sidd Finch 08-24-2006 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Since we're professing mutuakl love, I always read yours on PB. I second gwinky's position on you... You're reasonable and come at issues from sensible, well thought out and positions. Although this board would appear to eschew those qualities, its actually in dire need of them, as a scan of the last week proves (although it remains the most entertaining in a long time). You should stay here.

Go both ways, like Hank.

He's somewhat charming in person, too. But don't let him get on the subject of how his father taught him to play cards. It's pretty traumatic.

Shape Shifter 08-24-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
You don't have an attic either?
No, he's saying spanky is a few Jews short of an attic.

greatwhitenorthchick 08-24-2006 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Is the "we" is this sentence a reference to "city dwellers", "blacks" or "gays"?
I'm just invisible to you, aren't I.

Spanky 08-24-2006 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
So you tell hot women that they are fat and ugly?

I'm surprised the strippers don't just beat you up.
If you want to get technical about it. I should have said at some point you are going to have to lie to every woman. No woman is perfect, and every woman "has a bad hair day". On such bad hair days or when queried about her possibly one imperfection, you need to lie. Every women is insecure about her looks* (especially models because they go to castings all day most of which are unsuccessful, and even supermodels get turned down from jobs because they "just don't look right" - and their imagination turns that into - you are ugly).

You can never tell a woman she is attractive enough. And the one time you tell her that her thighs could just be a little bit thinner is the one comment she will remember for the rest of her life and she will spin it over and over again in her head.

To call a women ugly is just plain cruel. It would be nicer to beat her with a baseball bat. The injury from the latter assault would heal much quicker.

There is no excuse for calling a woman ugly or unattractive to her face. It just should never be done under any circumstances. In this one circumstance lying is not only acceptable it is an imperative.

As Sebby would say, I will get off my soap box now.


* The only exception to this rule is fat black women.

ThurgreedMarshall 08-24-2006 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Is the "we" is this sentence a reference to "city dwellers", "blacks" or "gays"?
I know you're only interested in the last category, but I'll answer for each. Yes, yes and yes.

TM

Hank Chinaski 08-24-2006 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
If you want to get technical about it. I should have said at some point you are going to have to lie to every woman. No woman is perfect, and every woman "has a bad hair day". On such bad hair days or when queried about her possibly one imperfection, you need to lie. Every women is insecure about her looks* (especially models because they go to castings all day most of which are unsuccessful, and even supermodels get turned down from jobs because they "just don't look right" - and their imagination turns that into - you are ugly).

You can never tell a woman she is attractive enough. And the one time you tell her that her thighs could just be a little bit thinner is the one comment she will remember for the rest of her life and she will spin it over and over again in her head.

To call a women ugly is just plain cruel. It would be nicer to beat her with a baseball bat. The injury from the latter assault would heal much quicker.

There is no excuse for calling a woman ugly or unattractive to her face. It just should never be done under any circumstances. In this one circumstance lying is not only acceptable it is an imperative.


* The only exception to this rule is fat black women.
Translation: Thurgreed is an asshole.

greatwhitenorthchick 08-24-2006 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I second gwinky's position on you... You're reasonable and come at issues from sensible, well thought out positions.
Um, I'm not sure that is my position. I think he is a bit of an odd duck, to be honest (as are most of us). But we do not have his particular brand of strange on this board yet, and I, for one, appreciate it.

greatwhitenorthchick 08-24-2006 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
If you want to get technical about it. I should have said at some point you are going to have to lie to every woman. No woman is perfect, and every woman "has a bad hair day". On such bad hair days or when queried about her possibly one imperfection, you need to lie. Every women is insecure about her looks* (especially models because they go to castings all day most of which are unsuccessful, and even supermodels get turned down from jobs because they "just don't look right" - and their imagination turns that into - you are ugly).

You can never tell a woman she is attractive enough. And the one time you tell her that her thighs could just be a little bit thinner is the one comment she will remember for the rest of her life and she will spin it over and over again in her head.

To call a women ugly is just plain cruel. It would be nicer to beat her with a baseball bat. The injury from the latter assault would heal much quicker.

There is no excuse for calling a woman ugly or unattractive to her face. It just should never be done under any circumstances. In this one circumstance lying is not only acceptable it is an imperative.

As Sebby would say, I will get off my soap box now.


* The only exception to this rule is fat black women.
I categorically disagree with everything you have just posted.

Spanky 08-24-2006 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Everyone. Spanky is used to having his very own board. He's come to expect a certian level of attention. We ALL need to make him feel welcome if you want to convince him to stay.
Its amazing how you see right through me.

ThurgreedMarshall 08-24-2006 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
To call a women ugly is just plain cruel. It would be nicer to beat her with a baseball bat. The injury from the latter assault would heal much quicker.
Well see? You should have been posting here all along. You would have helped us all avoid so much pain.

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Originally posted by Spanky
There is no excuse for calling a woman ugly or unattractive to her face. It just should never be done under any circumstances. In this one circumstance lying is not only acceptable it is an imperative.
This is tripe. Women are no more fragile than men. I agree with you to a certain extent -- white lies, here are there are harmless and probably beneficial in most cases. And it's okay to have such a rule in general. But if you do, it shouldn't be applied to just women on some sort of theory that they are incapable of hearing the truth because of permanent mental trauma.

TM

bold_n_brazen 08-24-2006 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
God no. Why would I want to?
It's actually a pretty good flick.

And Susan Sarandon looks fabulous in it.

SlaveNoMore 08-24-2006 07:13 PM

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greatwhitenorthchick
I'm just invisible to you, aren't I.
My favorite Canadian? Nonsense!!!

patentparanyc 08-24-2006 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
If you want to get technical about it. I should have said at some point you are going to have to lie to every woman. No woman is perfect, and every woman "has a bad hair day". On such bad hair days or when queried about her possibly one imperfection, you need to lie. Every women is insecure about her looks* (especially models because they go to castings all day most of which are unsuccessful, and even supermodels get turned down from jobs because they "just don't look right" - and their imagination turns that into - you are ugly).

You can never tell a woman she is attractive enough. And the one time you tell her that her thighs could just be a little bit thinner is the one comment she will remember for the rest of her life and she will spin it over and over again in her head.

To call a women ugly is just plain cruel. It would be nicer to beat her with a baseball bat. The injury from the latter assault would heal much quicker.

There is no excuse for calling a woman ugly or unattractive to her face. It just should never be done under any circumstances. In this one circumstance lying is not only acceptable it is an imperative.

As Sebby would say, I will get off my soap box now.


* The only exception to this rule is fat black women.
okay the big softball is fat asian women too?

just kidding

I think I handled it well besides the batshit thing. oh that.

I don't need help, I just am very stubborn and like to drive points home. I am here since I have some friends here and if the cool table decides I'm bunk so be it. I'll live.

and you are fair and balanced. stripper eye contact weirdness aside.

Flinty_McFlint 08-24-2006 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by bold_n_brazen
It's actually a pretty good flick.

And Susan Sarandon looks fabulous in it.

She sure did.

http://www.traversino.com/joe_maini_...ty_feldman.jpg

Flinty_McFlint 08-24-2006 07:17 PM

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Originally posted by patentparanyc
okay the big softball is fat asian women too?

just kidding

I think I handled it well besides the batshit thing. oh that.

I don't need help, I just am very stubborn and like to drive points home. I am here since I have some friends here and if the cool table decides I'm bunk so be it. I'll live.

and you are fair and balanced. stripper eye contact weirdness aside.
Yeah, all my friends don't defend me either. They are awesome.

Shape Shifter 08-24-2006 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Well see? You should have been posting here all along. You would have helped us all avoid so much pain.

This is tripe. Women are no more fragile than men. I agree with you to a certain extent -- white lies, here are there are harmless and probably beneficial in most cases. And it's okay to have such a rule in general. But if you do, it shouldn't be applied to just women on some sort of theory that they are incapable of hearing the truth because of permanent mental trauma.

TM
I think it depends on the relevant pool.

Spanky 08-24-2006 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Well see? You should have been posting here all along. You would have helped us all avoid so much pain.

This is tripe. Women are no more fragile than men. I agree with you to a certain extent -- white lies, here are there are harmless and probably beneficial in most cases. And it's okay to have such a rule in general. But if you do, it shouldn't be applied to just women on some sort of theory that they are incapable of hearing the truth because of permanent mental trauma.

TM
I told you I would get Annoying. I was trying to turn this into a debate but I do have to agree with your final point.

Women are not more fragile than Men as a rule, but in this one area I believe they are (clearly Ms. Canada disagrees with me - but no one ever mistaken me for a feminist). Being told they are ugly by a Man (a women, not so much) is what hurts them deeply. For men it is being told by a woman that their Johnson is too small. That is a scar that will last a lifetime.

patentparanyc 08-24-2006 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Flinty_McFlint
Yeah, all my friends don't defend me either. They are awesome.
YOu know what Flinty? that is bs. I didn't ask them to defend me publicly. They are friends with a lot of people here and I selflessly asked them not to get involved and they sent nice PMs and nice emails. No one wants to get involved in this debacle.........but people said nice sympathetic things.

patentparanyc 08-24-2006 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by patentparanyc
YOu know what Flinty? that is bs. I didn't ask them to defend me publicly. They are friends with a lot of people here and I selflessly asked them not to get involved and they sent nice PMs and nice emails. No one wants to get involved in this debacle.........but people said nice sympathetic things.
In fact, I told certain people absolutely not to get involved seeing as they are friends with both sides if you will. I'm mature like that. you can laugh all you want.

Shape Shifter 08-24-2006 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I told you I would get Annoying. I was trying to turn this into a debate but I do have to agree with your final point.

Women are not more fragile than Men as a rule, but in this one area I believe they are (clearly Ms. Canada disagrees with me - but no one ever mistaken me for a feminist). Being told they are ugly by a Man (a women, not so much) is what hurts them deeply. For men it is being told by a woman that their Johnson is too small. That is a scar that will last a lifetime.
One woman wasn't so bad, but when it became a pattern . . .

patentparanyc 08-24-2006 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by patentparanyc
In fact, I told certain people absolutely not to get involved seeing as they are friends with both sides if you will. I'm mature like that. you can laugh all you want.
Besides, people are human. noone wishes to be ostracised or put thru what i have been put thru past few days I really feel like i've been a trooper albeit a whiney one.

one of the attys bought me coffee from sbux...

ThurgreedMarshall 08-24-2006 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
Women are not more fragile than Men as a rule, but in this one area I believe they are (clearly Ms. Canada disagrees with me - but no one ever mistaken me for a feminist). Being told they are ugly by a Man (a women, not so much) is what hurts them deeply. For men it is being told by a woman that their Johnson is too small. That is a scar that will last a lifetime.
On the former, I think it depends on the man and who is saying it. On the latter, Flinty told me it only hurts when it's true.

If you're a guy and a girl you really like and respect tells you she thinks you're too busted to date, it would be as deeply scarring as if it happened to a woman. Guys laugh it off when they're in a bar and some girl says the same after a dumb line. But in that kind of situation, so do women.

Hell, my criticism of The Notorious F.A.T. shouldn't have bothered her at all. She doesn't fucking know me. There is no reason to value my opinion and any sane person would have said, "I and my husband disagree," and that would have been the end of it. And, although I've met ugly girls who think they're hot, I have yet to meet a hot girl who doesn't know it on some level. The ones who are and know it don't let insults about their looks bother them that much, unless it comes from someone they care about and/or respect.

TM

greatwhitenorthchick 08-24-2006 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
I told you I would get Annoying. I was trying to turn this into a debate but I do have to agree with your final point.

Women are not more fragile than Men as a rule, but in this one area I believe they are (clearly Ms. Canada disagrees with me - but no one ever mistaken me for a feminist). Being told they are ugly by a Man (a women, not so much) is what hurts them deeply. For men it is being told by a woman that their Johnson is too small. That is a scar that will last a lifetime.
No, this is not Annoying at all. Debate is good.

I will take your point and Thurgreed's and just add this: fwiw, I don't think I have solicited any comments on my appearance in a long time from men because I think most of them subscribe to your theory. So that is why, if I really cared, I would go to my female friends. One in particular. She is the only person I will shop with because she's the only person I know who will be completely honest with me about whether something looks good or looks like shit. (I suppose I would also go to TM because he also would give it to me straight). I just think that honesty has its place.

ltl/fb 08-24-2006 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky
For men it is being told by a woman that their Johnson is too small. That is a scar that will last a lifetime.
What if she pauses to think, and then says (possibly slightly uncertainly) "No, no, it's fine. I mean, it's great! I love it." Scarring?

ltl/fb 08-24-2006 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
we tolerate such posters quite well here.
If by "tolerate" you mean abuse and attack and denigrate, I agree.

ltl/fb 08-24-2006 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
No, this is not Annoying at all. Debate is good.

I will take your point and Thurgreed's and just add this: fwiw, I don't think I have solicited any comments on my appearance in a long time from men because I think most of them subscribe to your theory. So that is why, if I really cared, I would go to my female friends. One in particular. She is the only person I will shop with because she's the only person I know who will be completely honest with me about whether something looks good or looks like shit. (I suppose I would also go to TM because he also would give it to me straight). I just think that honesty has its place.
Do you think TM can do the relative thing? Like (and I am not speaking of you, of course, red lingerie girl) considering that someone is not all that, skirt A is more flattering than skirt B? Or would the answer always be "Yeah, you don't look so good in that [because you are not attractive]"?

patentparanyc 08-24-2006 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
On the former, I think it depends on the man and who is saying it. On the latter, Flinty told me it only hurts when it's true.

If you're a guy and a girl you really like and respect tells you she thinks you're too busted to date, it would be as deeply scarring as if it happened to a woman. Guys laugh it off when they're in a bar and some girl says the same after a dumb line. But in that kind of situation, so do women.

Hell, my criticism of The Notorious F.A.T. shouldn't have bothered her at all. She doesn't fucking know me. There is no reason to value my opinion and any sane person would have said, "I and my husband disagree," and that would have been the end of it. And, although I've met ugly girls who think they're hot, I have yet to meet a hot girl who doesn't know it on some level. The ones who are and know it don't let insults about their looks bother them that much, unless it comes from someone they care about and/or respect.

TM
You know what the issue at hand is Biggie Smalls is your gratitious use of cruelty.

And the fact that it pisses me off that you have used your influence on the board to slander me on the board. that is bs. Not that I give two flying fucks that someone who isn't my type [my type is tall and athletic and all american looking or ethnic Italian or Irish] thinks I am a dog or not. People in okechobee can't verify if i am hot and it doesn't matter. that is not how I define myself. I think I'm an attractive woman and that at the end of the day fwiw is what matters.

and that I put myself out there and you totally treated me shabbily sorry. maybe I am sheltered. my husband and all the people at work kiss my ass. you're rough, dude.

Sidd Finch 08-24-2006 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
What if she pauses to think, and then says (possibly slightly uncertainly) "No, no, it's fine. I mean, it's great! I love it." Scarring?
Only if she adds "Is it in yet?"**



**Flinty asked me to post this for him.

ltl/fb 08-24-2006 07:45 PM

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You know what the issue at hand is Biggie Smalls is your gratitious use of cruelty.
He wasn't cruel to you. Unless it's like that torts thing where if you toss a supersoft pillow at someone, and it hits the person's shoulder, and the shoulder breaks because of some obscure bone disorder, you could be liable for the injuries resulting from the assault even though it wouldn't have injured the average person.

I think in the textbook case, it was a skull.

patentparanyc 08-24-2006 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
He wasn't cruel to you. Unless it's like that torts thing where if you toss a supersoft pillow at someone, and it hits the person's shoulder, and the shoulder breaks because of some obscure bone disorder, you could be liable for the injuries resulting from the assault even though it wouldn't have injured the average person.

I think in the textbook case, it was a skull.
Calling me the notorious fat is cruel. he's an asshole man

ltl/fb 08-24-2006 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Only if she adds "Is it in yet?"**



**Flinty asked me to post this for him.
The conversation goes like this:

Female: I can't wait until you are inside me . . .
Male: I am! Can't you feel it??? Am I too small for you?????!!!!!????!!!
Female: [pause] No, no, it's fine. I mean, it's great! I love it.

Flinty_McFlint 08-24-2006 07:47 PM

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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
On the former, I think it depends on the man and who is saying it. On the latter, Flinty told me it only hurts when it's true.

If you're a guy and a girl you really like and respect tells you she thinks you're too busted to date, it would be as deeply scarring as if it happened to a woman. Guys laugh it off when they're in a bar and some girl says the same after a dumb line. But in that kind of situation, so do women.

Hell, my criticism of The Notorious F.A.T. shouldn't have bothered her at all. She doesn't fucking know me. There is no reason to value my opinion and any sane person would have said, "I and my husband disagree," and that would have been the end of it. And, although I've met ugly girls who think they're hot, I have yet to meet a hot girl who doesn't know it on some level. The ones who are and know it don't let insults about their looks bother them that much, unless it comes from someone they care about and/or respect.

TM
You really are mean. I'm calling you the queen bee from here on out.

Sidd Finch 08-24-2006 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by greatwhitenorthchick
No, this is not Annoying at all. Debate is good.

I will take your point and Thurgreed's and just add this: fwiw, I don't think I have solicited any comments on my appearance in a long time from men because I think most of them subscribe to your theory. So that is why, if I really cared, I would go to my female friends. One in particular. She is the only person I will shop with because she's the only person I know who will be completely honest with me about whether something looks good or looks like shit. (I suppose I would also go to TM because he also would give it to me straight). I just think that honesty has its place.
Once in awhile my wife asks if she looks good in an outfit that she is thinking of wearing that night. I dread this.

If I don't like the way she looks in something, I'm honest but gentle and positive. So, I don't say "ew" or "no" or "you look like a fat stumpy Asian chick with floppy tits." I say something like "why don't you were ..... instead -- that'd look really good." And that's fine with her.

The part I dread is when I say she does look good. Because inevitably she thinks I'm being "nice" (i.e., lying), or maybe she only asked my opinion because she already had doubts. And this leads to endless outfit changes, would this look better, how about that....

This is as high-maintenance as she gets, which is basically nothing. But still -- don't ask me if you don't really care about the answer.

Flinty_McFlint 08-24-2006 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Only if she adds "Is it in yet?"**



**Flinty asked me to post this for him.
That is uncanny. I was going to post the same exact thing about you, but it was a "he" and there was more crying. I am a stickler for details.

Sidd Finch 08-24-2006 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
The conversation goes like this:

Female: I can't wait until you are inside me . . .
Male: I am! Can't you feel it??? Am I too small for you?????!!!!!????!!!
Female: [pause] No, no, it's fine. I mean, it's great! I love it.

I haven't seen Bull Durham, and I've never been involved in this conversation. What can I say?

patentparanyc 08-24-2006 07:49 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Once in awhile my wife asks if she looks good in an outfit that she is thinking of wearing that night. I dread this.

If I don't like the way she looks in something, I'm honest but gentle and positive. So, I don't say "ew" or "no" or "you look like a fat stumpy Asian chick with floppy tits." I say something like "why don't you were ..... instead -- that'd look really good." And that's fine with her.

The part I dread is when I say she does look good. Because inevitably she thinks I'm being "nice" (i.e., lying), or maybe she only asked my opinion because she already had doubts. And this leads to endless outfit changes, would this look better, how about that....

This is as high-maintenance as she gets, which is basically nothing. But still -- don't ask me if you don't really care about the answer.
this is what I mean. Sidd is across the country, with no way to verify if I am butt, but still takes pot shots.

TM is mean.


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