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I didn't realize that South Dakota and Idaho were in the so-called Bible Belt.

Or is this some strange side-effect of "global warming"?

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I think from his ivory tower, all of flyover land is the bible belt.

sweet, sweet irony
 

Poll: is this the most unbelievable statement ever on the PB?

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I stand corrected.

I find it odd that all the sexual deviants who get elected seem to be mainstream Republicans.

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Who are the deviants? The guy who liked pageboys matches up favorably with Barney Frank. Larry Craig isn't deviant (He is not a deviant and has never been a deviant). He's gay, and closeted, so looks for sex where lots of closeted gay people do--anonymously in bathrooms. If you want to call that deviant, go ahead, but I suspect that's a pissing match few democrats would want to get in.

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Go back. Click the link. Start there.

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If he was in his early 20s and not morbidly obese, I don't believe you would be calling him deviant. The most appalling thing about what he did was that he was abusing foster kids entrusted to him, but that doesn't make him deviant.

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I did. It sort of ends there. Or at least somewhere around slave's follow-up post.

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Wanting to do gyno-type exams on women/girls significantly younger, when he's kind of a father figure, is not an entirely harmless kink. Late 40s with 16-y-os?

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Look at him. Do you think it's a kink? Or the fact that a guy with his looks is getting some play only through major deception of innocents too unaware to figure out the ploy?

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You and Ty are scaring me.

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I think he probably gets off on playing doctor and that's a kink. Given the age and vulnerability of the people he plays doctor with, it's not a particularly harmless kink.

And I think that there are deviants, perverts, people who can't keep their pants zipped on both sides of the aisle, but Republicans, especially religious or conservative Republicans, are more exciting in sex scandals because they're the "values" party, so the R next to the perp's name gives off an aura of hypocracy on top of the general "oooh sex!" media hype.

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i think burger wanted affirmation that if you aren't very good looking it's okay to lie and deceive to get some sexual contact. after all, at the root, we are a support group.

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Generally, yes, I agree with all this, but I'm not sure it's the full answer. There have just been so many Republican sex scandals in the last couple of years.

Is it all the repressed and self-righteous "Christians" seeing that pent-up sexual energy get twisted up inside? Is it the media zooming in because it's better press? I don't know. But anyone who thinks there is anything "normal" about a 49 year old married guy molesting his foster daughters, his daughters friends, and any other innocent teenager he can find lives in a world I want no part of.

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Harmless? No. Healthy? No. Deviant? I wouldn't use that word, either.

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If a Dem gets caught in a sex scandal, it gains no traction whatsoever.

Hell - as Clinton and McGreevey have proved - Dems prefer to be tarnished with a "sex" scandal than with fraud.

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The doing it with daughter figures may, to me, push it over the line to deviant. Incest qualifies as deviancy, and I think that, even like, step-brothers and step-sisters should really think carefully and be adults before getting it on. Sorry, Cher and Josh.

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Did you guys end up getting that au pair? How is that working out?

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I agree with that, but in the situations I'm familiar with no one confuses foster kids for natural children, or even step-kids. What the guy did was totally wrong, no question, but I don't think it was "deviant."

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I am not sure what you're referring to, so: no. If we did have an au pair, I wouldn't be banging her. Or him. But if I were, I don't think that would be deviant, either.

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We can agree to disagree. They're distinguishable, but not so distinguishable to make it not a parent-child type of relationship. And he was deceiving them; under the circumstances presented, the girls were not consenting to sexual play. It's one thing for me to play gynecological patient with the noir boys, and another for me to undergo what I really think is a medical-type exam, but is not. That's at a minimum predatory, and maybe sexual assault, and to me predation and sexual assault are deviant. If he just fantasized about it, it might be different.

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I agree that the conduct you describe is deviant, but I don't think I'd refer to the person who does it as a "sexual deviant," which is how the conversation started. However, the more we parse the word, the less strongly I feel about it. Maybe whatever sexual urge the guy felt is not "deviant," but his conduct was.

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How's your mayor doing these days? Reelected, right?

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Ty, please.

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Would you call a rapist "deviant"?

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Are you looking to defend rapists? Or deviants? Or just Republicans in general? I can't keep it straight.

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He would if it was a Republican rapist.

eta: stp

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I'm sure the guy just wasn't good at math and thought it was supposed to be half MINUS 7 years.

Oh, wait.

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I am not registered Republican and have historically split my vote. In fact, I've voted for many Democrats.

Registered Libertarian, mostly out of disgust.

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I'm sure all will be right in the world once your party gets us back on the gold standard. And gets rid of all those jack-booted thugs at Treasury.

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Gavin? He was caught this year, separately, in (i) sex, (ii) drugs and (iii) nepotism scandals.

And no one even bothered to run against him. Too busy protesting outside Pelosi's house, i guess.

To quote his own political strategist - "However many votes we get, we know the Bay Guardian will say it wasn't enough."

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How very republican of him. :rolleyes:

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Why do you bother to dispute about things like this?

S_A_M

P.S. You are clearly wrong, although your argument is so subjective that I cannot disagree.

In-credible
 

Yeh, yeh, yeh. He has a drinking problem and while he was splitting up with his wife slept with an attractive adult woman who worked for him and knew exactly what she was doing, but he didn't manage to violate any laws or even policies in the process. That's exactly like molesting teens under your care and your daughter's friends.

Exactly. The. Same. Thing.


(Hint - go back to Gerry Studds - the page may be taking down social security by now, but at least the teen page thing has some degree of comparability).

Godwin does not play dice with the universe.
 

never? am i on ignore:( ?

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I find his platform intriguing and wish to subscribe to his newsletter. (Hi Burger!)

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It's like the GOP's nod to fundamentalists. The attraction for the Libertarian base is that the candidate be, at least to some small degree, crazy. And you can't lose your base.

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None of this would happen if we had cheap universal healthcare for these girls. That's the real tragedy.

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A mandate is the only kind of scandal Gavin hasn't had, but chances are that's a matter of time.

Bad Reporter
 

The first two panels were worth it:

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