Orangina
 

There is so much to do with this I don't know where to begin!

Orangina
 

Ah. I think this works for me. Crappy, crappy ratio.

Orangina
 

We already know that standards are very low where you work.

Orangina
 

Spankings for all?

Orangina
 

They see me in casual clothes.

And you are welcome.

Orangina
 

Bingo.

Orangina
 

KMart is bad?

Orangina
 

Really? I always find that AT stuff is tight in all the wrong places -- like under the arms and up the butt and around the elbows.

Orangina
 

rereading that, I had about 4 different thoughts in one paragraph and they didn't all go together. So which part did you mean? I'm pretty sure not that ncs and MM are best qualified to comment on your clothing choices.

Orangina
 

That for work clothes I shop at a lot of different places. Some nicer than others but for every day work stuff Ann Taylor is not a bad place to shop. They made it sound like it was like Ames or some shit. And the irony is the one that got all hard about work clothes is the one that doesn't work. d'oh!

Orangina
 

I wear a lot of sweaters, and not jackets or fitted shirts, so the elbows/arms thing not an issue really. I generally find jackets really uncomfortable and tend not to wear them.

I don't recall issues with their pants crawling up my butt.

Orangina
 

My ex-wife and I call it The Crap House.

TM

Orangina
 

I have difficulty with up the butt for most pants everywhere. It's why I don't wear them (except jeans). I think that it is just an issue for long-torsoed women. Maybe AT especially caters to the shorter-torsoed woman pants-wise.

Orangina
 

Wow. I don't wear pants either. strictly skirts at all times. even weekends sometimes. ann taylor stretch skirts ironically enough.

Orangina
 

BFF?

Orangina
 

I have never seen you look like a 2L interviewing, but I think you may be taking bnb's statement a bit more literally than it was intended. (Not that Ann Taylor clothes look like summer associate clothes, but that they were the clothes that she bought before being a summer associate. And now that I think about it, I shopped there quite a bit for first year associate suits, all of which have now left my closet.)

I have some work pants from Ann Taylor and I must be the person they design them for because those are among my more comfortable and better fitting work pants. I do agree that the store tends too far towards synthectic fibers, though having a bit of stretch in some of the work pants is nice. And recall that I also have been known to buy Gap work pants, so most likely my standards cannot be trusted.

The only department store I go into regularly at this point is Nordstrom and really that is only because I have one across the street from my apartment. It is almost always disappointing too because it was a test store that was made significantly smaller than most Nordstroms and so selection in all areas (including, alas, shoes) is limited*. After they opened that store, I have heard that the response was not good and they bagged the idea of smaller Nordstrom stores in the future. Lucky me.



*Though now that I think about it, the men's department does tend to have good items and the men's shoe department is almost as big as women's so maybe this was some mastermind plot by a man to limit the women's stuff while getting full selection for himself. Evil genius.

Orangina
 

Not even. I am very short torsoed. It's why I can't (or won't) wear big belts. They cut into my ribcage. But I digress.

Orangina
 

I piss anywhere man.
Mick Jagger 1966

I shop anywhere
Fringey 2006

Orangina
 

The problem with Nordstrom is that the service is so excellent that it almost makes you want to buy things you don't really like.

Orangina
 

Assholes. What really pissed me off is when Nordstrom discontinued pretty much every petite line except for the house brand (Classiques) and the other one that uses nothing but synthetic fabrics. I miss Ralph Lauren.

Orangina
 

True. I bought a bunch of stuff there, and pretty much just stayed in the dressing room while someone brought in lots and lots of stuff. I regret a couple/few things, but I also got things I never would have picked on my own that I really like.

Orangina
 

really? they had a good-ish selection of petite stuff, including RL, at the one here.

Orangina
 

So? You can wear them for six months and return them no questions asked for a refund.* Teach them to provide good service that makes you buy things you don't like.



* True story, if my friend is to be believed: She returned one shoe for a full refund on the pair.

Orangina
 

Thank you, ncs. Every time I find myself really struggling with my Manfred Pledge, I just think to myself "ncs will address this in just a few short moments and I will feel better".

Orangina
 

I think AT clothes are very young lawyer starting out. perhaps because of the pricing? kinda upscale, but not superexpensive.

Orangina
 

In that it is the biggest crap house in the world? I agree.

TM

Orangina
 

See, I find the same phenomenon at Talbot's. The waist/body is always tremendously too-big. Too boxy for my taste/shape, which requires some difference in waist and ass measurements. And the pants are too damned short. I have had some luck going down a size or two and doing Misses rather than Petites.

I do have some pants from eons ago from Ann Taylor that I still wear and that have held up pretty well.

I have lately discovered that, for inexpensive suits, Anne Klein fits me well these days. I wore a tailored shirt yesterday that I really want to have copied by a tailor.

Orangina
 

?????up the butt you should be tight.??????

Orangina
 

Anne Klein is very nice work stuff.

Don't forget Brooks Brothers. I am head to toe today stuffy as hell but nicely cut and good lightweight italian wool. A ton of my crap is from BB.

Orangina
 

I think we are kind of saying the same thing.

When I was a 2L, interviewing, I had a rotation of maybe 4 AT suits. I added a couple more when I was actually a summer associate. By the time I became an actual associate, "business casual" was the norm, so those AT suits got relegated to the back of the closet where they still linger, reminding me of that particular autumn and the subsequent summer.

That is all I am saying. I was in no way commenting on the cut, design, price point, or anything else about AT suits.

eta that when I was a summer associate, I did not take my pants off (Ann Taylor or otherwise) and throw them into the Boston Harbor. I did, however, set a trashcan on fire in a partner's office. I also got my partner mentor so drunk that I had to hold her hair back while she puked.

Orangina
 

Yes, yes.

And then, the oral sex.

Orangina
 

I also like Dana Buchman. And talbot's is okay....but stuffy again.

Banana Republic I'm back into since the weight loss.

Orangina
 

This is a sort of disturbing line of thought for those of us who were just at the kids board.

Orangina
 

Back in the day, Nordstroms would employ a separate buying department for every store. That way, they could buy appropriately per market. (Hi Blake!) Like, you wouldn't want a lot of deep winter outerwear in the LA store, for instance. But I had heard that over the years, they were doing away with that practice, because it was too expensive. I have been to 3 separate Nordstroms in the past 3 months (in 2 states) and can say with confidence that Ralph was not among the brands in any of the petite department. They had full size Ralph in other departments. The one by my house had Ann Klein for awhile, but a very limited selection.

I shop only in Faconnable, Savvy, St. John and Studio 121 now.

Maybe I should go to LA.

Orangina
 

Nice edit Hank.

Orangina
 

I have never liked Macy's - I thought mabye it was the enormity of the store - the flagship in NYC is effing HUGE. But all that crap you just said are probably the bigger reasons.

Oh My God
 

Make it stop. The women's fashion talk. I'm sorry I brought up Macy's.


These TITS* should make up for it.

*I miss ABBA

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Macys sucks
 

I can't be as bad as Abercrombe and Bitch. Where the music is so loud that outside the store and in another store you can still hear it.

Oh My God
 

I prefer the slices of bread to the meat in the sandwich. What say you?

Oh My God
 

I want this stomach.
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