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sebastian_dangerfield 02-17-2006 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
:( :confused: there's no such thing as bad press IMHO
But it really wasn't true. You're more of a scattershit, politically unsure drunk. Penske was laser-like in pounding his singular message.

I assume this "you'd be something, but you're a goddammed boozebag" speech is old hat to you. I am shaking my head as I write this.

ltl/fb 02-17-2006 12:25 PM

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So, they were talking on the radio about the $1 million/day powerball thingy and said "uncle sam will take more than half" -- why is this? Is it an AMT thing and AMT rates are really that high?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 02-17-2006 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
So, they were talking on the radio about the $1 million/day powerball thingy and said "uncle sam will take more than half" -- why is this? Is it an AMT thing and AMT rates are really that high?
no, but i think they withhold at the top rate, which is 36% or something. Add in state taxes. and you come up close enough to say "more than half".

ltl/fb 02-17-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
no, but i think they withhold at the top rate, which is 36% or something. Add in state taxes. and you come up close enough to say "more than half".
Ah. then it's what I thought, they were sloppy -- state taxes aren't "uncle sam." Sam's a fed.

Sidd Finch 02-17-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Oh, don't be a scold here. There's no place where we should observe free market rules/free speech more expansively than the media. Any and every crank should be allowed to speak whatever he likes. People should be smart or dumb enough to select what information/disinformation they like and run with it to their heart's content. I know you didn't suggest curtailing free speech, but that's the inveitable solution offered to cure the problem of people like Coulter. I say, let an idiot have his podium. More comedy for the rest of us.
Well, you got one thing right -- I didn't suggest curtailing free speech.

Replaced_Texan 02-17-2006 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
Ah. then it's what I thought, they were sloppy -- state taxes aren't "uncle sam." Sam's a fed.
I thought that lottery winnings are taxed at a higher rate than most other income. Isn't lottery a separate question on the tax form?

ETA: Never mind, I found the form, and it looks like withholding should be at 25%. I don't know what the tax rate is on that income though.

taxwonk 02-17-2006 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by ltl/fb
So, they were talking on the radio about the $1 million/day powerball thingy and said "uncle sam will take more than half" -- why is this? Is it an AMT thing and AMT rates are really that high?
It was because people are stupid and math is hard.

The top bracket is still 35%. With the phaseout of exemptions and deductions, some people in the bulge have a higher effective rate, but by the time you're in the tens of millions (assuming the winner takes a lump sum) you're back at the 35% rate.

taxwonk 02-17-2006 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Replaced_Texan
I thought that lottery winnings are taxed at a higher rate than most other income. Isn't lottery a separate question on the tax form?
Lottery winnings are taxed at the same rate as other ordinary income.

Raggedy Ann Coulter 02-17-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
Well, you got one thing right -- I didn't suggest curtailing free speech.
The ragheads have now put a Million Dollar bounty on the heads of the Danish Cartoonists.

"Bombing them back to the stone age" is actually laughable idea. These cretins never left the stone age to begin with.

Shape Shifter 02-17-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by Raggedy Ann Coulter
The ragheads have now put a Million Dollar bounty on the heads of the Danish Cartoonists.

"Bombing them back to the stone age" is actually laughable idea. These cretins never left the stone age to begin with.
What is that after taxes?

sgtclub 02-17-2006 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
I do. Not so much because it bothers me that some right-wing publicity-hound twat accuses me of "Treason". But because people who should be intelligent enough to ignore her don't, but instead parrot what she says and profess their admiration for her -- or even consider her diatribes amusing.

Club, for example, talks about "my girl, Ann."

Slave has been known to quote her affectionately, often in the heat of passion.

And Bilmore? Ann Coulter with breasts.
If you take her for what she is, she is pretty amusing. Lighten up.

Shape Shifter 02-17-2006 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
If you take her for what she is . . .
Hate mongerer? Inciter of violence? Race baiter? What is she, exactly?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 02-17-2006 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
Lottery winnings are taxed at the same rate as other ordinary income.
What if you trade it for a timeshare?

original Hank@judged.com 02-17-2006 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
If you take her for what she is, she is pretty amusing. Lighten up.
sidd is not so dense as some to not to realize what her play is. You can't have once come on to a Greedy associates board, even solo ambulance chasing, and not respect someone who can make big bucks doing what you do on an internet board where the most sidd gets is stroking affirmation from Wonk or Ty trhee days later.

does Ann get residuals from our posts?

original Hank@judged.com 02-17-2006 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What if you trade it for a timeshare?
depends, what week you have an interest? Wonk might place a higher value on spring break week-he takes kids and also gets to ogle more udnerage girls in bikini. the dirty old man routine is easier without the overcoat. built in premium.

Sidd Finch 02-17-2006 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
If you take her for what she is, she is pretty amusing. Lighten up.
When you feel that way about Michael Moore, let me know.

original Hank@judged.com 02-17-2006 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
When you feel that way about Michael Moore, let me know.
club is smart enough to know that both Mikey Moore and Coulter helped W get elected. Don't be surprised if the GOP is behind the scenes distributor for his next movie.

Tyrone Slothrop 02-17-2006 02:53 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
If you take her for what she is, she is pretty amusing. Lighten up.
Is there something funny about calling people "ragheads" that I'm not getting?

original Hank@judged.com 02-17-2006 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Is there something funny about calling people "ragheads" that I'm not getting?
It is the DU equivalent of "dumya". that seems to be standard fare to cause a crack-up over there.

sebastian_dangerfield 02-17-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Is there something funny about calling people "ragheads" that I'm not getting?
Yes. Bigots of every variety are exceptionally funny to watch in action. Perhaps that's cheap laughter, since I don't fall into any groups frequently targeted by them... But nevertheless, watching a bigot make an ass of himself is funny. I've seen it up close, when someone gets really drunk and says something really bigoted and the whole conversation. just. stops. Those moments when you think to yourself "What an ass... that person did not just say something so neanderthal, did he?" can actually be very funny.

Maybe I have a warped sense of humor, but I don't think so. Shit... Chappelle made a fortune exploiting how absurd bigots sound.

Shape Shifter 02-17-2006 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
Yes. Bigots of every variety are exceptionally funny to watch in action. Perhaps that's cheap laughter, since I don't fall into any groups frequently targeted by them... But nevertheless, watching a bigot make an ass of himself is funny. I've seen it up close, when someone gets really drunk and says something really bigoted and the whole conversation. just. stops. Those moments when you think to yourself "What an ass... that person did not just say something so neanderthal, did he?" can actually be very funny.

Maybe I have a warped sense of humor, but I don't think so. Shit... Chappelle made a fortune exploiting how absurd bigots sound.
Fag.

andViolins 02-17-2006 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by Shape Shifter
Fag.
HA!

That's funny.

aV

original Hank@judged.com 02-17-2006 03:24 PM

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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I've seen it up close, when someone gets really drunk and says something really bigoted and the whole conversation. just. stops. Those moments when you think to yourself "What an ass... that person did not just say something so neanderthal, did he?" can actually be very funny.

Your wife tells me that it was my ability to affect those moments that first attracted her to me.

original Hank@judged.com 02-17-2006 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by andViolins
HA!

That's funny.

aV
nfh is ghost writing his material, although she held back on the link .

taxwonk 02-17-2006 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
What if you trade it for a timeshare?
Nobody's really sure, but for $30,000 I'll give you a more likely than not opinion.

LessinSF 02-17-2006 03:59 PM

I won't defend Coulter generally, but let's examine what Spanky takes issue with:

The "offense to Islam" ruse is merely an excuse for Muslims to revert to their default mode: rioting and setting things on fire. These people have a serious anger management problem.

If we put the word "many" before "Muslims," is this really disputable?

So it's not exactly a scoop that Muslims are engaging in violence. A front-page story would be "Offended Muslims Remain Calm."

Same.

Bombing Syria back to the stone age .

Indefensible, unless viewed as hyperbole and general call to arms against Syria, which is completely understandable.

Jihad monkey talks tough; jihad monkey takes the consequences. Sorry, I realize that's offensive. How about "camel jockey"? What? Now what'd I say? Boy, you tent merchants sure are touchy. Grow up, would you?

I don't even understand why she thinks "jihad monkey" is offensive. I could attach any so-called offensive word to "jihad" and it would not be nearly as offensive as the idea of "jihad," i.e. holy war, i.e killing over a religious idea. I would almost sanction the assassination of any so-called religious leader who calls for a "jihad." One could view it as unprotected speech because it incites to riot or is hate speech. Calling anyone who calls for "jihad" a "tent merchant" pales in comparison.

original Hank@judged.com 02-17-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by LessinSF
I won't defend Coulter generally, but let's examine what Spanky takes issue with:

The "offense to Islam" ruse is merely an excuse for Muslims to revert to their default mode: rioting and setting things on fire. These people have a serious anger management problem.

If we put the word "many" before "Muslims," is this really disputable?

So it's not exactly a scoop that Muslims are engaging in violence. A front-page story would be "Offended Muslims Remain Calm."

Same.

Bombing Syria back to the stone age .

Indefensible, unless viewed as hyperbole and general call to arms against Syria, which is completely understandable.

Jihad monkey talks tough; jihad monkey takes the consequences. Sorry, I realize that's offensive. How about "camel jockey"? What? Now what'd I say? Boy, you tent merchants sure are touchy. Grow up, would you?

I don't even understand why she thinks "jihad monkey" is offensive. I could attach any so-called offensive word to "jihad" and it would not be nearly as offensive as the idea of "jihad," i.e. holy war, i.e killing over a religious idea. I would almost sanction the assassination of any so-called religious leader who calls for a "jihad." One could view it as unprotected speech because it incites to riot or is hate speech. Calling anyone who calls for "jihad" a "tent merchant" pales in comparison.
Do you know if it is offensive to refer to "camel schtupping" when referencing sex with camels? Should be camel-lovemaking?

sgtclub 02-17-2006 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
When you feel that way about Michael Moore, let me know.
Fair point, but I find MM far more sleazy (probably because he's more effective).

sgtclub 02-17-2006 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Is there something funny about calling people "ragheads" that I'm not getting?
Yes - I find most descriptive derogatory phrases funny.

Raggedy Ann Coulter 02-17-2006 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by Sidd Finch
When you feel that way about Michael Moore, let me know.
Ex-Presidents don't invite me to sit in their private boxes during their Conventions.

http://jeffreylloyd.blogs.com/weblog/images/mm_dnc.jpg

Ingrates.

Spanky 02-17-2006 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by LessinSF
I won't defend Coulter generally, but let's examine what Spanky takes issue with:

The "offense to Islam" ruse is merely an excuse for Muslims to revert to their default mode: rioting and setting things on fire. These people have a serious anger management problem.

If we put the word "many" before "Muslims," is this really disputable?

There are 1 Billion Muslims in this world and how many were involved in riots? Less than 1/10 of one percent? Even less than that? Are Christian always upset? Pat Roberstson and his millions of followers are always mad about something, but they don't represent the 85 percent of Americans who are Christian. If they are upset can you say many Christians are upset.? It is OK to say Fundamentalist Christians are often upset but not Christians in general for when Pat is perturbed. I think if she called them Fundamentalist, or Extremist Muslims, it would have been better, but to include all Muslims is way off the reservation.

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Originally posted by LessinSF So it's not exactly a scoop that Muslims are engaging in violence. A front-page story would be "Offended Muslims Remain Calm."

Same.
In almost every incident, haven't the overwheliming majority of Offended Muslim remained calm? 1/10 of one percent of the Muslims in this world equals one million people. When was the last time a million muslims rioted about anything?




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Originally posted by LessinSF
Bombing Syria back to the stone age .

Indefensible, unless viewed as hyperbole and general call to arms against Syria, which is completely understandable.
You were right until you added words after Indefensible.

Jihad monkey talks tough; jihad monkey takes the consequences. Sorry, I realize that's offensive. How about "camel jockey"? What? Now what'd I say? Boy, you tent merchants sure are touchy. Grow up, would you?

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Originally posted by LessinSF
I don't even understand why she thinks "jihad monkey" is offensive. I could attach any so-called offensive word to "jihad" and it would not be nearly as offensive as the idea of "jihad," i.e. holy war, i.e killing over a religious idea. I would almost sanction the assassination of any so-called religious leader who calls for a "jihad." One could view it as unprotected speech because it incites to riot or is hate speech. Calling anyone who calls for "jihad" a "tent merchant" pales in comparison.
Jihad is a lot like Crusade. Christians go on Crusades all the time that are not violent. Just as Muslims go on Jihads all the time (like feeding the poor in a certain neighborhood) that are not violent.

A Jihad that calls for killing or violence is way out of line. But most Jihads are positive things as far as social policy is concerned.

The use of Camel Jocky is indefensible in a political column. Ok on Comedy Central, not OK on CNN.

original Hank@judged.com 02-17-2006 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by Spanky


The use of Camel Jocky is indefensible in a political column. Ok on Comedy Central, not OK on CNN.
How about in sports colum about camel racing? ESPN? Al Jazeera-Sports?

Tyrone Slothrop 02-18-2006 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by original Hank@judged.com
How about in sports colum about camel racing? ESPN? Al Jazeera-Sports?
Only if there are people riding the camels.

taxwonk 02-18-2006 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Fair point, but I find MM far more sleazy (probably because he's more effective).
Or is it just that you disagree with him?

original Hank@judged.com 02-18-2006 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Only if there are people riding the camels.
You do realize that in reality "camel jockeys" who ride camels are non-Muslim children "purchased" by rich Muslim shiekhs and used for entertainment purposes at the weekly camel races. Once they outgrow the desired child sizing they are discarded. They probably don't talk about this human right tragedy in your blogland what with the focus on important topics,like Cheney's huntng accidnt.

does your desire to suppress this word indicate a cover-up of the arabs crimes of slavery?

original Hank@judged.com 02-18-2006 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
Or is it just that you disagree with him?
MM could not be a camel jockey,too heavy. Coulter could at least make the weight requirements. She gets a point for that.

sgtclub 02-18-2006 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
Or is it just that you disagree with him?

I don't think so. I find it incredibly sleazy to bill propoganda as a "documentary." Coulter schtick is clearly opinion. She does not pretend to be objective.

taxwonk 02-18-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by sgtclub
I don't think so. I find it incredibly sleazy to bill propoganda as a "documentary." Coulter schtick is clearly opinion. She does not pretend to be objective.
You're right. That's far more offensive than calling Arabs "camel-jockeys." I take it all back.

original Hank@judged.com 02-19-2006 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by taxwonk
You're right. That's far more offensive than calling Arabs "camel-jockeys." I take it all back.
would the victims of September 11 find defending slave traders who finance terrorism or the rotund documentarian who glorifies them the most offensive?

taxwonk 02-19-2006 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by original Hank@judged.com
would the victims of September 11 find defending slave traders who finance terrorism or the rotund documentarian who glorifies them the most offensive?
If you can't see the distinction between a few individuals and the entire body of the world's largest religion then you really ought to stick to more basic concepts.

For instance, fire: Good or Bad?


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