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SlaveNoMore 12-02-2004 12:41 AM

A Forum for Grinches and Ho-Ho-Hoes
 
Only 24 more days to shop.

May I suggest this as a stocking stuffer:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/03...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Tyrone Slothrop 12-02-2004 12:56 AM

A Forum for Grinches and Ho-Ho-Hoes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Only 24 more days to shop.

May I suggest this as a stocking stuffer:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/03...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Who are you, Sasquatch?

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 12-02-2004 09:52 AM

A Forum for Grinches and Ho-Ho-Hoes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
Only 24 more days to shop.

May I suggest this as a stocking stuffer:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/03...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
All I see are those sweet, sweet french tits, and all is forgiven.

Hank Chinaski 12-02-2004 09:53 AM

A Forum for Grinches and Ho-Ho-Hoes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
All I see are those sweet, sweet french tits, and all is forgiven.
Well you know the French guys advancing with guns are a fake image, so why trust the boobs?

ilikenewsocks 12-02-2004 10:56 AM

A Forum for Grinches and Ho-Ho-Hoes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Well you know the French guys advancing with guns are a fake image, so why trust the boobs?
You mean that's a dealbreaker for you? If so, please avoid Southern California at all costs.

On an unrelated note, the European Union is apparently set to take over peacekeeping duties in Bosnia. One less foreign entanglement for US troops, one more "multinational" force predestined to fail miserably. We'll be back in Bosnia before 2007.

sgtclub 12-02-2004 11:11 AM

Noonan on Rather
 
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan

Overall, it's a flattering and honest piece, which is expected given that he gave her her start.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-02-2004 12:38 PM

Noonan on Rather
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan

Overall, it's a flattering and honest piece, which is expected given that he gave her her start.
The business in the last few paragraphs in which she suggests that Rather's political views were not really his, but were urged on a simple-minded Texas boy by the pinstriped East Coast Establishment, is just a little odd.

sgtclub 12-02-2004 01:06 PM

Noonan on Rather
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The business in the last few paragraphs in which she suggests that Rather's political views were not really his, but were urged on a simple-minded Texas boy by the pinstriped East Coast Establishment, is just a little odd.
I agree, but I've heard Bernie Goldberg say the same thing, so there may be something to it.

dtb 12-02-2004 01:17 PM

France Bashers, Take Note:
 
This article from NY Magazine suggests that perhaps France has been more helpful to the US's counter-terrorism efforts (albeit behind-the-scenes) than it lets on.

Check out Reason Number 3.

I've copied the pertinent part of the article below. I don't know if it's BS or not, but it sure has ruined my day, as I love France-bashing as much as the next jeune fille, uh, I mean gal.
  • 3. The French Have Saved Us.


    “Don’t think because nothing hit New York, nothing was tried,” says Swetnam, who used to be a CIA officer and a special consultant to the first President Bush’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board. “Plenty was tried, but everything was thwarted. And this might surprise you, but French intelligence was key.”


    There have been at least four attempts uncovered in the past two years to strike the U.S., he says, including specific attacks on New York, but the plans were intercepted and the operations preempted. “The last one was a big attempt to strike our financial centers. A year before that, they were putting together a ricin attack. Both attacks were planned and staged from Great Britain,” says Swetnam. Also, adds Redlener, “attacks on American and international schools overseas have been detected in advance and prevented.”


    How is that possible, when the CIA’s intelligence-gathering is supposedly in a shambles? Because of good friends in shadowy places. “The French intelligence services have been just phenomenal,” says Swetnam. “We wouldn’t have captured those cells in Great Britain if it wasn’t for the French, as well as the British and Germans.” Even the ISI—Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence, which once used drug money to help finance the Taliban in Afghanistan—has become a crucial U.S. partner in the spy game. “They’re really a bad intelligence service, in terms of morals, but really effective,” says Swetnam.


    For a while, it looked like the CIA was hopelessly unprepared to infiltrate Al Qaeda. The agency had spent decades developing satellite and radio-intercept technology, because that was how secrets were transmitted during the Cold War. “It was right to do that at the time,” says Johnson. “But we didn’t transition quickly enough when the nerve center of the enemy changed from the halls of the Kremlin to mountain caves in Afghanistan. All of a sudden, we have to figure out how to intercept messages transmitted from mouth to ear.”


    That requires a formidable Arabic-speaking spy force, which would take years to build from scratch. But the French already have one, retained from their days as colonial masters of Algeria, Tunisia, and Morocco, not to mention their mandates over Syria and Lebanon. French intelligence knows how to root out Arabic-speaking insurgents. And while Jacques Chirac may not lend us any French soldiers, he’s apparently been generous with the French spy network.




PS -- Ty, your GD mailbox is full.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-02-2004 01:22 PM

Noonan on Rather
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sgtclub
I agree, but I've heard Bernie Goldberg say the same thing, so there may be something to it.
I can't speak for Goldberg, but Noonan appears to think she's being charitable to Rather by suggesting that he has been brainwashed (or something) and doesn't really believe what he says he believes. Not to mention that it runs completely counter to what she said at the start of the piece about Rather's experiences reporting on the civil rights movement and in Vietnam.

Gattigap 12-02-2004 01:41 PM

France Bashers, Take Note:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
And while Jacques Chirac may not lend us any French soldiers, he’s apparently been generous with the French spy network.
Um .... but dtb, look at the picture on Slave's book! That nekkid French bitch is stepping on the American flag!

Lies! All lies. No way the Frenchies help us.

Sidd Finch 12-02-2004 01:44 PM

A Forum for Grinches and Ho-Ho-Hoes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Well you know the French guys advancing with guns are a fake image, so why trust the boobs?
I thought they were running away.

Sidd Finch 12-02-2004 01:47 PM

France Bashers, Take Note:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
French intelligence knows how to root out Arabic-speaking insurgents. And while Jacques Chirac may not lend us any French soldiers, he’s apparently been generous with the French spy network.

Wow, tought choice. Do we want the assistance of a competent intelligence service that has spies who speak Arabic and experience dealing with Arabic-speaking insurgents? Or do we want some French soldiers on the front lines?

Decisions, decisions.

Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) 12-02-2004 01:48 PM

Note to Ty
 
If you don't clear out your PM box, the dino gets it in the tail.

And you'll lose all your risque PMs too.

Hank Chinaski 12-02-2004 01:49 PM

France Bashers, Take Note:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gattigap
Um .... but dtb, look at the picture on Slave's book! That nekkid French bitch is stepping on the American flag!

Lies! All lies. No way the Frenchies help us.
do we pay them for information? Sadaam said if you pay the French they'd do what he wanted them to. Maybe that's how we do it.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-02-2004 02:02 PM

Note to Ty
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.) and dtb
If you don't clear out your PM box, the dino gets it in the tail.

And you'll lose all your risque PMs too.
OK, OK, sorry. I need to find a virtual warehouse for my correspondence over the years with Hank. Everything else can go, but I cherish those PMs particularly.

SlaveNoMore 12-02-2004 02:08 PM

France Bashers, Take Note:
 
Quote:

dtb
This article from NY Magazine...
NY Magazine is nothing more than Time Out: New York with glossy photos of Hamptons fetes that none of us were invited.

Mad Magazine is probably as worthy a source.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-02-2004 02:13 PM

So it turns out that most abstinence programs (11 of 13 surveyed) lie to kids about sex. Oh the humanity!

And then there's this stuff:
  • Some course materials cited in Waxman's report present as scientific fact notions about a man's need for "admiration" and "sexual fulfillment" compared with a woman's need for "financial support." One book in the "Choosing Best" series tells the story of a knight who married a village maiden instead of the princess because the princess offered so many tips on slaying the local dragon. "Moral of the story," notes the popular text: "Occasional suggestions and assistance may be alright, but too much of it will lessen a man's confidence or even turn him away from his princess."

Oy.

Tyrone Slothrop 12-02-2004 02:18 PM

France Bashers, Take Note:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
NY Magazine is nothing more than Time Out: New York with glossy photos of Hamptons fetes that none of us were invited.

Mad Magazine is probably as worthy a source.
I warned you not to blow your whole Christmas bonus on crack.

Hank Chinaski 12-02-2004 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
"Moral of the story," notes the popular text: "Occasional suggestions and assistance may be alright, but too much of it will lessen a man's confidence or even turn him away from his princess."
dtb- take note.

Hank Chinaski 12-02-2004 02:23 PM

Note to Ty
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
OK, OK, sorry. I need to find a virtual warehouse for my correspondence over the years with Hank. Everything else can go, but I cherish those PMs particularly.
I have most of them. My secretary has the one where you recommended your cure for anal warts. Talk about a silver bullet. 2 days later she could sit down like normal.

ltl/fb 12-02-2004 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
dtb- take note.
Is that a turn-off for you? Because I've really been thinking that your posting style could use some improvements. Specifically, I think you should run draft posts through a grammar and spelling check before you actually post them. In addition, keeping an archive of your posts from the PB so that you can ensure consistency would be avisable. Adviseable. Whichever.

Also, you should dye that grey/white streak in your beard to match the rest of the beard, and wash the hair under your hat more frequently. In conjunction with that, you should get the hat cleaned so that you avoid transferring all the old grease and dirt to your freshly cleaned hair.

I'll have some more stuff later, but that should give you something to start with.

SlaveNoMore 12-02-2004 02:43 PM

Warm and Fuzzy Holiday Moment #1
 
During this Holiday season, I find it appropriate to share stories of warm family moments throughout the world.

Here is the first:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...nit_vah103.jpg

An Iranian man, prepares his daughter, who is a member of a suicide commandos unit, by covering her face in the same style of Palestinian and Lebanese militants, during a ceremony where the first suicide commandos unit was inaugurated at the Behesht-e-Zahra cemetery just outside Tehran, Iran, Thursday, Dec. 2, 2004. Some 200 masked young men and women gathered at the cemetery Thursday to pledge their willingness to carry out suicide bomb attacks against Americans in Iraq and Israelis.

Hank Chinaski 12-02-2004 02:46 PM

Warm and Fuzzy Holiday Moment #1
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
During this Holiday season, I find it appropriate to share stories of warm family moments throughout the world.

Here is the first:

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com...nit_vah103.jpg

An Iranian man, prepares his daughter, who is a member of a suicide commandos unit, by covering her face in the same style of Palestinian and Lebanese militants, during a ceremony where the first suicide commandos unit was inaugurated at the Behesht-e-Zahra cemetery just outside Tehran, Iran, Thursday, Dec. 2, 2004. Some 200 masked young men and women gathered at the cemetery Thursday to pledge their willingness to carry out suicide bomb attacks against Americans in Iraq and Israelis.
If I was in Iraq I'd want to be stationed near the water. They won't let girls swim, so my gang would be safe from the like's of her.

baltassoc 12-02-2004 02:50 PM

France Bashers, Take Note:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
NY Magazine is nothing more than Time Out: New York with glossy photos of Hamptons fetes that none of us were invited.
Yes, and they never feature the brilliant analysis of Pat Sajek, either. How good could they be?

dtb 12-02-2004 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
dtb- take note.
Huh? Why me? Was I not helpful with the floor-covering recommendation?

Pout.

Hank Chinaski 12-02-2004 02:57 PM

France Bashers, Take Note:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by baltassoc
Yes, and they never feature the brilliant analysis of Pat Sajek, either. How good could they be?
What? Do Michael Moore and Susan Sarandon have more advanced degrees than Pat?

dtb 12-02-2004 02:58 PM

Warm and Fuzzy Holiday Moment #1
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
If I was in Iraq I'd want to be stationed near the water. They won't let girls swim, so my gang would be safe from the like's of her.
OK, I tried to be all submissive and shit, but, eh -- it's just not my way.

like's, Hank? Come on.

baltassoc 12-02-2004 03:01 PM

France Bashers, Take Note:
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
What? Do Michael Moore and Susan Sarandon have more advanced degrees than Pat?
What? Have I ever posted an article by Michael Moore or Susan Sarandon?

SlaveNoMore 12-02-2004 03:01 PM

France Bashers, Take Note:
 
Quote:

baltassoc
Yes, and they never feature the brilliant analysis of Pat Sajek, either. How good could they be?
You spell worse than Club.

baltassoc 12-02-2004 03:02 PM

Warm and Fuzzy Holiday Moment #1
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
OK, I tried to be all submissive and shit, but, eh -- it's just not my way.

like's, Hank? Come on.
What, you bust him I like's but let the butchering of the subjunctive slip?

Replaced_Texan 12-02-2004 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
So it turns out that most abstinence programs (11 of 13 surveyed) lie to kids about sex. Oh the humanity!

And then there's this stuff:
  • Some course materials cited in Waxman's report present as scientific fact notions about a man's need for "admiration" and "sexual fulfillment" compared with a woman's need for "financial support." One book in the "Choosing Best" series tells the story of a knight who married a village maiden instead of the princess because the princess offered so many tips on slaying the local dragon. "Moral of the story," notes the popular text: "Occasional suggestions and assistance may be alright, but too much of it will lessen a man's confidence or even turn him away from his princess."

Oy.
They should supplement that material with the books I posted on the FB yesterday.

dtb 12-02-2004 03:16 PM

Warm and Fuzzy Holiday Moment #1
 
Quote:

Originally posted by baltassoc
What, you bust him I like's but let the butchering of the subjunctive slip?
A perfect example of why grammar and punctuation are so important. When I see something such as "like's", I can go no further. I didn't even GET to the grammar, as the punctuation was so abysmal as to be utterly distracting.

Hank Chinaski 12-02-2004 03:21 PM

Warm and Fuzzy Holiday Moment #1
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
A perfect example of why grammar and punctuation are so important. When I see something such as "like's", I can go no further. I didn't even GET to the grammar, as the punctuation was so abysmal as to be utterly distracting.
Maybe YOUR underwear is too tight? (does that work with girls?)

ilikenewsocks 12-02-2004 03:27 PM

Warm and Fuzzy Holiday Moment #1
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Maybe YOUR underwear is too tight? (does that work with girls?)
I haven't really been paying attention, but maybe the analogue is "Did you run your plastic bra straps through the dryer again?"

dtb 12-02-2004 03:29 PM

Warm and Fuzzy Holiday Moment #1
 
Quote:

Originally posted by ilikenewsocks
I haven't really been paying attention, but maybe the analogue is "Did you run your plastic bra straps through the dryer again?"
A. Why does anyone have plastic bra straps?

B. Who puts bras in the dryer?

Hank Chinaski 12-02-2004 03:32 PM

Warm and Fuzzy Holiday Moment #1
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
B. Who puts bras in the dryer?
Me. Early in marriage when I had drawn laundry as a chore and wanted to fuck up to get out of it.

Sidd Finch 12-02-2004 03:32 PM

Warm and Fuzzy Holiday Moment #1
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
Maybe YOUR underwear is too tight? (does that work with girls?)
No, it doesn't. But it does give her the opportunity to respond "I'm not wearing any."

So you got that going for you. That's kind of nice.

Replaced_Texan 12-02-2004 03:36 PM

Warm and Fuzzy Holiday Moment #1
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dtb
A. Why does anyone have plastic bra straps?

B. Who puts bras in the dryer?
Ok, ok, lesson learned. I'll never, ever do it again. And not just because the dryer melted my plastic bra straps.

Sidd Finch 12-02-2004 03:45 PM

Warm and Fuzzy Holiday Moment #1
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SlaveNoMore
An Iranian man, prepares his daughter, who is a member of a suicide commandos unit, by covering her face in the same style of Palestinian and Lebanese militants, during a ceremony where the first suicide commandos unit was inaugurated at the Behesht-e-Zahra cemetery just outside Tehran, Iran, Thursday, Dec. 2, 2004. Some 200 masked young men and women gathered at the cemetery Thursday to pledge their willingness to carry out suicide bomb attacks against Americans in Iraq and Israelis.

Lovely.

And you thought you had it bad when your parents pressured you into law school.


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