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Old 06-23-2004, 01:44 PM   #2773
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When The Economist -- one of the earliest, loudest, and most consistent supporters of going to war in Iraq -- calls for Rumsfeld to resign or be fired -- I have to say that you are simply wrong.
I don't think Rummy resigning or not will change anyone's vote. It won't even change Hello's vote and he hates Rummy. He is voting for GWB regardless of whether Rummy resigns or not.

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This is not to mention, of course, that pictures of Arabs being tortured and humiliated by Americans kinda just might cause us to lose some of the Arab hearts and minds we were supposed to be winning.
Well it certainly was a set back on that front, but if Iraq gets up an running and there are jobs and a decent economy and a reduction in the terrorist incidents, it won't matter.

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If you're talking about the American electorate, you may have a point -- the country is so polarized that even if Rummy were carving Satanic pentagrams on Iraqi prisoners with a dull steak knife people like you would defend him and call anyone who didn't a traitor (this is the flip-side of your argument "you hate him anyway, so there").
I am talking about the American electorate and I agree that we are polarized. There is a small segment that are true swing voters who will determine the outcome of the election and they could careless about Abu Gharaib, at least when it comes to casting a vote in an American election.

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On the other hand, public opinion polls regarding the Admin's handling of Iraq have been dropping steadily since March. Are you confident that the revelations about treatment of prisoners have absolutely nothing to do with that?
I think that what upsets people are American soldiers being killed and maimed. It upsets me and it is effecting how I feel about the Admin's handling of Iraq.

You have to remember that large numbers of people in this country believe that Iraqi's attacked us on 9/11. They are wrong, of course, but a similar percentage of these people think that New Mexico is not part of the US. Sad, yes, but do they care what happens in Abu Gharaib? I doubt it. But OTOH, I am sure that they feel like me when you hear day after day after day about US soldiers dying and being maimed.
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