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Old 07-09-2004, 09:16 PM   #4255
Atticus Grinch
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the bump that wasn't

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Originally posted by sgtclub
Let me know when you find a party whose policies you can agree with 100%. I haven't been able to find one that comes even close, so you prioritize and vote accordingly.
Nice try, but I'm not voting for Nader no matter what you say. I will, however, accept responsibility for what Clinton did, even the stuff that I didn't agree with but was foreseeable. I won't take ownership of my local Dem rep, who voted for war --- I voted to bounce him in the primary. And I tend to vote in the Dem primaries for leftist challengers to Boxer and Feinstein, when there are some.

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I'm willing to set aside AA. I'm talking about the old fashion type of racism.
The race argument is still hopelessly muddled, because unlike homophobia the two parties espouse pretty similar views on race: "Racism bad. In other news, we are not racists." Unless you're talking about the "Blacks are shiftless and lazy" type of racism, we're in for a long night, because I'm still more concerned about what the person does with their view on the role of race in a person's life. Shit, I could say that anyone who uses the phrase "black community" is a racist, in one sense of the word. Example: I think Bill Cosby is a fucking hero for speaking truth, but that would brand me a racist in some circles because he had the temerity to address black folk as a group and to make one black person morally responsible for helping another black person, to a greater degree than society as a whole owes black folk. I don't think that's racist, but I guar-on-tee I can find close friends who'd think it is --- mebbe even some of them GOP.

Let me put it this way. I'm confident that 70% of people who have used the term "towel head" in a non-ironic fashion (you're welcome, Hank) voted for Bush in 2000, and 90% of the people who've said "sand nigger" even once in their lives will vote for Bush in 2004. Prove me wrong, kids. Prove me wrong!
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