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Old 07-13-2004, 06:35 PM   #4518
Atticus Grinch
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Originally posted by Mmmm, Burger (C.J.)
If a sufficient number of senators on the relevant committee and on the floor want to bring a Tina Fey, Hot or Not vote to the floor, they should be able to.
Um, this is a politics board, not a constitutional convention. They're "able" to. My opinion is that litmus votes are a stupid waste of time, and we should not judge individual senators who refuse to participate in that kind of bullshit. If anything, we should praise them.* I make this point so we don't take it as gospel that what the Senate has the power to do, it has the power to do without the ridicule or judgment of the public it serves.

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When did you become Atticus, the uber-senator who decides what's appropriate for Senate business.
I don't like the policies of the present Senate majority. I'm more likely to note when they're engaging in masturbatory acts than a person who thinks we're all on the right track. The business of the Senate is appropriately criticized in every diner and barbershop in the nation. Why am I out of bounds here?

It's scary how easily people who profess to think government is broken nevertheless tend to suspend judgment about the governments whose policies they like.

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And why is the FMA not at least appropriate for consideration? It's not as if there's a consensus that gay marriage is an unimportant issue for politicians to be dealing with.
How did this somehow become a noble effort? Karl Rove is some kind of chivalric figure? The GOP thought they would motivate a hell of a lot more people than they did. Ooops. Now they have to go forward with this to save face with the Jesus vote. I guess it's "appropriate for consideration" in the sense that this is an election year and now GOP shock troops like Club can post on Internet chat boards that Kerry missed a procedural vote on a constitutional amendment that needs 60 and won't even get 50 because the principled members of the GOP agree with Kerry and think it's bullshit. (That's a vote on whether or not it comes to a vote --- the GOP can't get 50.)

*In this instance, I don't think what Kerry is doing is praiseworthy, but I also don't think it's indicative of any character flaw disqualifying him from the presidency.
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