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Old 07-26-2004, 07:39 PM   #426
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Come on, sebby, that's just not true. Muslims are not animals operating by instinct. People turn to radical Islam, and can turn away from it. We win the war by winning the ideological struggle, not by killing them all. Trying only to kill them, and using brutal force, plays into their hands. President Bush, to his credit, kinda gets this, but only sometimes, and the guy can't execute.
Hey, a dialogue would be great, but that ain't going to happen. The only thing that would stop the radicals in the short term would be a very sudden influx of money and jobs, which tend to cause people to forget religious fanaticism. But the lack of eductaion and work and societal infrastructure necessary to get the radicals from tribal to modern thinking obver any period less than 50 years just isn't there. What are we to do? Experiment with trying undertsand these people while they try their damndest to kill us? I agree that understanding is necessary, but we have to be rather brutal, to make their lifestyle less attractive to younger people who may convert. A kid may think twice about joining any movement where its adherenets tend to die early and brutally.

You're arguing with people from the 13th century.

* Ahem, you wrongly accused me of calling ALL muslims brutish animals. Again, you know damn well that's not my position. Try to be more careful. I may advocate violence toward religious nuts, but I'm no bigot toward reasonable Muslims. They're just caught up in a shit storm on these issue like the rest of us.
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