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Old 08-02-2004, 04:00 PM   #910
Sidd Finch
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Originally posted by sgtclub
You seem to suggest that the government provides the conditions necessary for me to make money. At the 50,000 foot level, you are probably correct, in that we need a stable society and methods of enforcement to allow the economy to function properly. But at a lower level, I disagree with that premise. In most of the deals I'm involved in, the law plays a very minor roll and the parties agree to opt-out of the system, and choose private arbitration instead. So, yes, I could make the salary I'm making without a government. There would still need to be an enforcement mechanism, but the private courts are perfectly able to provide this, so long as they are backed by the threat of the gun.
Do you think your arbitration provisions would be worth a damn if (1) courts did not enforce arbitration provisions and (2) courts did not enter arbitration awards as enforceable judgments?

If there were no government, and no laws, there would be no lawyers -- litigators or transactional. People hire lawyers to work on deals to make sure that the deal terms are legal, enforceable, and hopefully favorable. This is stating the obvious.

Your belief that you would have a job in a society without government is faith-based. And defies all evidence -- look how well countries without government, like Somalia, function. Hoo-boy, bet there are a lot of lawyers doing well there.

And your response omits any number of other government inputs into your ability to make a living. You already told us that you ride public transit. Even if you didn't, who provides the roads that you ride on? The police and fire protection for your building? The public schools that probably educated the vast majority of people working at your firm? The postal system that brings most of your correspondence in? The Federal Reserve system that the banks who cash your paychecks -- and maybe hire your firm -- depend on to survive (again, lots of great banks in places like Somalia).


Yeah, the rich don't benefit from government at all.
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