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Old 09-16-2004, 01:47 AM   #4626
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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
You're fooling yourself. You should follow his links.
I have. You should follow some others.

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A parable about Iraq.
Only to the true believers, who, incidently, probably also see "The Night Before Christmas" as a parable about Iraq.

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And some of my Dad's service in the Army was in the Green Berets, except that it wasn't. Bush was puffing his credentials.
Nope. Reserves are part of the main force.

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Tellingly, once again I saw that it shouldn't matter, and you say that it does. You guys have a hard time saying that it should with a straight face, but you love the smear.
Matter? Matter how? Do I think that, in both of their lives, truth may have been sacrificed at times for personal reasons? Sure. Do I think that either situation disqualifies for the office? Nope. But, Kerry chose his battle issues. He chose to say to us "my character, as defined and shaped and demonstrated by my service in the battlefields of Viet Nam, is what qualifies me to be your leader." Bush said nothing like that. Bush presented us with other criteria by which to judge him. Look at Kerry's silly-ass theme for the convention - he leaves no choice BUT to go after his service-as-qualifier mantra. So, yeah, to that extent, it matters - it is a direct response to his offer of proof.

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(1) Being criticized by your own party only means something when you're a Republican. The Democrats start doing it before they wake up in the morning.
You've been using this "we do it all the time because we're so diverse and intelligent" theme to discount the fact that my examples show that it's not just Repubs, saying baseless things for marketing purposes, for quite some time. Sometimes they really mean it.

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(2) He actually says shit about other things. He just can't make it stick. Yet. I fault his communication skills.
He has excellent communication skills. Unfortunately, it would hurt his chances to accurately communicate who he really is. He's a hard-core liberal trying to play a moderate on the big stage. So, he needs to redirect attention, to things like "we, who have fought and been bloodied in foreign wars, understand the need for day care subsidies . . ."
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