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Old 09-20-2004, 12:56 PM   #4923
Secret_Agent_Man
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Hey, Wonk

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Originally posted by bilmore
You complain that I don't treat you "individually". That I treat all libs here as fungible. That I don't take your viewpoint seriously.
That's been my perception too (The first two points).

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Maybe it's because you all use old, slanted info to make your partisan points. Maybe it's because you all (you, too) rip what's happening in Iraq, based on ignorance. Yes, effin' IGNORANCE.
Do you include Dick Lugar and John McCain in this group? Check the news.

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Got any really close rels in Iraq?
Yes, and a friend or two.

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But I bet a dollar you don't even make it this far. Read what someone on the ground has to say that knocks down your view? Heavens, no. But, slander the effort for the sake of a doomsdayer? Sure. He's in your party.
What do you mean by "slander the effort"? It is no "slander" to suggest that the Bush administration's job in post-war Iraq has been in many important respects fucking incompetent. At a senior civilian level, I'd say it is an extraordinary showing of misperceptions and misjudgments which leads me to question the judgment of the man who appointed those folks and backs them to the hilt.

You yourself have acknowledged some "serious tactical problems" in a recent post, but reiterated your support for Bush based on his vision and approach. (Basically -- "He may be incompetent, but I like the way that boy thinks.")

Each side needs to remember that when a glass in half-full it is also half-empty, AND VICE-VERSA. If you think you know how this will turn out, you're wrong. Anecdotal evidence of progress from first-person sources is fine -- but no more or less valid than the anecdotal negative evidence from other sources that you seem to despise.

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I never thought I'd say this, but it IS correct to attack the patriotism of the Dems. You'd rather we lost, just so your party wins. My god, how you guys must hate Bush. I can't imagine hating that much.
What sparked this diatribe, anyway? You sound like a fucking idiot. We've gotta get you out of Minnesota before you go insane.

S_A_M
(P.S. If you have any questions about irrational hatred, ask your GOP activist buddies about Bill, Hillary, Whitewater, etc.)
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