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Old 09-24-2004, 04:22 PM   #294
Tyrone Slothrop
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Cite, please, you shit-making-up troll.

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Ty, you would want the government to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was a threat before they could keep him out. While that may be the standard for convicting someone of a crime and taking away their liberty, that is not the standard to be applied to keep suspect foreigners out of our country. A foreigner has no right to enter our country. It is a privilege we extend to them. We can stop extending it at any time and for any reason we wish. A foreigner doesn't have a constitutional right to enter this country and doesn't have a constitutional right to due process on that decision.
I certainly didn't say that the government should meet the same evidentiary burden to exclude an foreigner as a jury would require to convict -- I just pointed out that the standard that the government is applying in these means that they may not even know or think that Stevens intended to give money for the wrong reasons. Whatever the foreigners' rights or lack thereof, it's a drag for us citizens who can't be visited by foreigners. For example, I got to send back my tickets to see Cubanismo at Zellerbach Hall this year after they had trouble getting into the country. Maybe some people like Cat Stevens' music as much as I like Cubanism. This is your cue to go off again about how Muslims are the problem, not Cubans.
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