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Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
You talk a good game sometimes, but you are totally full of shit. They overturn Roe v. Wade, abortion gets outlawed (mostly) in 20 states. It'll be more heavily regulated in maybe 10 more. And none of those states will be California, Illinois or New York.
I love that Do Unto Others thing too. Someday 800 million babies are coming at you with a hack saw.
On another note, I like how you guess that I'm from the poor Catholic areas. Its actually middle-to-upper class Catholic, though lots of the people are descended from poor Catholics 50 or 60 years ago. I agree that people tend to be less rigid in their "faith" as they get wealthier, but that could be because people don't put too much time into thinking a lot of things through as they become professional slaves. I don't think you were active on this board the last 4 times the abortion debate came up, but nothing got solved as to whether its right, wrong, questionable or whatever. If nothing else, one or two posters here and elsewhere have convinced me that they have a sincere basis for their position (contrary to mine).
You might think your heart beats in synch with the rest of America, but if it did, you wouldn't always be so frustrated.
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1. Overtiurning Roe v. Wade will create a mess on a societal level. It will only be a matter of time until somebody in a state where its illegal seeks to pass a law holding its citizens liable for getting abortions in other states. The anti-abortion people will not stop until they get a constitutional amendment. What is legal in New York cannot be considered murder in Missouri. That just doesn't work.
2. I have seen what happenes to "Catholics" who were forced into bad marriages due to unwanted pregnancies, or who suffered guilt, shame, etc... because they got pregnant because they were afraid to get the pill for fear their parents would find out. I know people who've had abortions. Some of those women are my friends, and they might not have been had their lives been stunted early because of someone else's religious views being written into law. I'll take your 800 million babies any day, you self righteous son of a bitch. Where do I sign up?
3. I never said you came from a poor Catholic background. I said the stereotype you offered was from a poor Catholic background. If you must know, I assumed you were a rather well to do person stereotyping the average Catholic as poor. Goes to show you how far "assuming" goes, eh?
4. Religion is a substitute for money for a lot of people. Money gives you the time to think and the luxury of learning various disparate ideas. There's a reason the rank and file Catholic parishes and Baptists don't want people getting education. It fucks up their business.
5. Any frustration I've felt is due to a lack of money which requires me to work for a living, not because I'm out of sync with average America (I'm willing to bet my brnad of frustration is pretty common to 90% of people). But I'll take your comment as a compliment. I can think of nothing more insulting than for you to have stated that I was "the average American." I'd hope I'm at least a bit better than that. The last thing any human should aspire to is to have his heart beat in sync with the rest of the men round him. If you've no individual thought, what are you?
