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Old 10-11-2004, 04:20 PM   #2190
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Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Was your neck of the sticks a farm with lots of hay? Its like one fucking straw man after another. I'm on record here saying state's rights, legalize-it-or-shoot-everybody-but-don't-fucking-reach-into-my-wallet-for-it, and spread the pain to Sebby's suburban crowd while we are at it.

Sebby says, "I'm a lover of liberty, a lifelong pro-Choice Catholic, and I'm sick of people like you saying drugs should be illegal but abortion should be state's rights". Who you talking about here Sebby? Because where I'm from, you are talking about the suburban crowd. Yeah, fuck all the minorities in the ghetto, but don't you dare throw a felony on my kid for buying the shit. Look around you man, your people are the problem. You can erect all the straw boogey-men you want, but at the end of the day its your compromises that were necessary to get to this perpetual cycle of social failure.

Call me what you will, but I don't see no pink elephants in the mirror when I'm brushing my teeth. You are an impossibly convoluted caricature of a libertarian.
Why must you continually try to frame every debate as some sort of suburb vs. urban poor conflict. You've responed to my challenge that most conservatives are phonies hiding an agenda by shooting the messenger. Here's a tip - your technique of reframing/warping the issue so that you can make every debate one about class and race, is transparent. A mongoloid could spot that you're trying to goad everyone into debates where you can take strong moral positions about inequality which make the opponent look like an ogre. You remind me of that line in Holidays in Cambodia where Biafra properly describes upper middle class white self-loathing:

"Play ethnicky jazz to parade your snazz on your five grand stereo, bragging that you know how the niggesr feel cold and the Sun's got so much soul..."

Stop trying to call me a classist/racist/anti-urbanist. My post had no hint of any of that. At least when I crash and burn, I admit it, instead of trying to morph the subject fifty times. Admit it, man - you're a conservative - you want people to adhere to certain morals, but you just can't stomach saying it because that forces you to give up all intellectual credibility in the argument.

And get rid of your hard on for for arguments about the ghetto. Its sounds contrived from an obviously whitebread Catholic kid from the better side of the tracks.
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