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Originally posted by bilmore
No, that's just the sign of a well-done lie. Moore uses specific factual lies all throughout his movie, some little, some big, all making Bush look bad. In order to show that his assertions are lies, explanation is needed, and, to a certain extent, people won't listen to explanation if it seems too technical or detailed - they immediately think "excuse". That's part of Moore's effectiveness - he knows that his simplistic portrayal of 30 facts in a scene, 23 of which are lies, makes it hard to keep an audience interested enough to hear the explanation of the truth.
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If given time, I can deconstruct any collection of facts, thesis, theory, tome, argument, etc... There is no "correct" anymore. The facts in the website you pointed me to can all be debunked elsewhere. You can no more catch Moore in a lie than I can catch Bush in a lie.
I will stipulate to this. I will go on record saying that Moore is a liar if you'll agree with me that Bush is just as much a liar. The website you showed me cannot be all wrong, so Moore is a liar. 7000 different worldwide media outlets cannot all be wrong, so Bush is also a liar.
If you float the theory that Bush is not a liar, but Moore is, you're a "true believer" and there's no point in even debating with you.
