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Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
I started the complaint with reference to our modern Great Society and its resultant ills. I pointed to abortion and noted the activist courts and the silver-spoon cheering section. 1973 ring any bells in this context here?
RT came back with charts showing declines in murders (from the peak years during the crack wars) and in teenage birthrates and abortion rates from something-like 1990. I point out that I'm looking to drive rates back to where they were before the G promised to fix everything. You point out how obviously correct my point is, even with a "Duh"! Now you say my comparison doesn't take into account actual numbers. I simply don't agree that no comparison can be made with pre-1973 numbers, although some of the pre-1973 numbers are estimating illegal abortions.
And yes, if people get illegal abortions, I understand they will be taking risks with their lives. If you and Sebby's purported majority care so much, y'all can fly em to California to have the abortions. I think criminals should be shot.
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The "duh" was because the "skyrocketing" was not (at least not entirely -- and I don't believe you can tell to what extent) due to the illegality of outlawing the procedure, but because the reporting was (more) accurate.
This is all so silly. There's just no having a discussion with someone in your 10% -- those who would outlaw abortion in all circumstances. There's 10% on the other side (no limitations whatsoever), with whom it is equally futile to have a discussion (I don't count myself among that 10%, if that matters) and then there's 80% in the middle, who think abortion should be available, but with varying degrees of restriction. I think everyone is clear where the parties stand -- what do you say we end this pointless conversation?
