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Old 10-14-2004, 11:08 AM   #3096
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I love these sort of posts. They get no substantive response. Dead air for about a half an hour, until someone posts somehing about how Hussein threw kittens into ceiling fans for fun.

The chief frustration of the GOP neocons and chickenhawks with the left (and the reason they take to insulting the left as "elites" and changing the subject all the time) is because, as far as I can see, at least on Iraq, they've got no rebuttal. They're throwing haymakers all over the place while the left ducks and weaves and flurries them with body shots.

The GOP should throw its one good punch - "Hey, stupid, the war is over there now, not here!" Sure, that'll anger the Mideast and the French, but fuck it... you can repair those rifts after you get re-elected.
That's my biggest intellectual disagreement with the GOP today and the neocons who support it blindly. Jesus, talk about the issues a little bit. It's so obvious from all the "Freedom, freedom, faith, stay the course, support our troops, no dissent, terror, terrists [sic], freedom, freedom, Laura" crap that Bush just can't talk about the issues.

Kerry laid out his position on pre-emptive war: "We should be threatened and we should be able to justify it to the world with a straight face." He never said anything close to what the administration is claiming he said, and Bush just ridicules him for actually having standards.

If Iraq was so threatening, what are we going to do about Iran and North Korea? If the atrocities were so bad, what are we going to do about the Sudan and Chechnya? At least make an effort to try to justify your actions without obfuscation. In my mind, Kerry was on the wrong side of both the votes regarding war in Iraq. But at least he has been honest about it. I can disagree, but respect his honesty. Same with McCain. He will be the candidate in 2008 regardless of what happens in three weeks. But Bush is just a joke. Everyone knows it, and it's clear that history will look on him that way. History has smiled on Reagan and George H. W. Bush. George W. Bush will be regarded as a joke and a failure.

Also, I think that the whole assault weapons ban thing needs to be hammered more by Kerry. It's obvious that Bush made his statements about signing it because his colleagues in Congress told him that it woudln't get to him. Kerry and his cronies also need to respond to all this vote count nonsense. Something like, "If George Bush had been serving his country in the Senate instead of mismanaging businesses, he would understand how voting in the Senate works."
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