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Old 10-14-2004, 08:25 PM   #3314
SlaveNoMore
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So, if we invade any country, and they later hold the first democratic elections there, it's justified? (This all ignores the fact that it's just abusrd to expect that Afghanistan will be a functioning democracy after the US military leaves.) I agree that we did the right thing by going into Afghanistan to go after AQ, but the whole democrary-building argument is a joke. Are we going to go into every country in the world which doesn't have democracy the way the current administration likes it, or just the ones that have powerful people in them who want to kill us, like Iran and North Korea?
Why doesn't anyone ever ask the reverse question, namely, becasue we cannot intervene in ALL the worlds ills and help ALL the world's downtrodden, then why should WE ever intervene???

Why Pat Buchanan, Why?

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The Israel angle is interesting. I wonder if Israel would really be benefited by any other US military action in the region. Maybe while we were there, but I worry that it would just make the rest of the region want to kill them even more as soon as we left.

As for removing brutal tyrants, sure, that's good. Are you claiming that SH was the most burtal tyrant in the world and that's why we went in? I recall something about some weapons he supposedly had.
I'm claiming he was a threat to the world. And whether or not he had the weapons in his possession or not (which everyone believed he did), he fully intended to build them once the sanctions ended (per the Duelfer report).

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Are we going to use the result of countries getting in line to justify going after a bunch of other nations, too?
I don't know, are we? If we did, I take it you wouldn't be in favor?

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Ooh, John Birch stuff! This is getting fun.
Did John Birch write the parts in the Duelfer report exposing all of the UNs complicity in the Oil-for-Food scandal?

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Come on, say what you REALLY want to say about my avatar. You know what I'm talking about.
What, that Sarah Silverman looks like a rat? I just did now. Twice.

I want to address your more important points - but I'm getting killed here. Try to respond more later
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