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Old 10-18-2004, 01:48 PM   #3690
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
So today we are not going to shift tactics.
There is a bigger picture here, and this is not the base problem. The base problem is we are not going to allow our military commanders to shift tactics.

The rest is to Bilmore:
W/R/T Fallujah and political interference, I simply find it inconceivable that there is any way Rummy gets a pass on this stuff. The buck stops there. The marine commanders say they didn't want in, and didn't want out after they were in. Someone ordered them out. And its not like the state department is in charge of fighting (and if they are, that's another complete fuck-up). Either way, Rummy and the Pentagon civilians shaped and ran this operation. If the military is misused politically, there is no way to give them a pass. And Fallujah was just one example.

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PS: Back to Greedy, you are entirely 100% correct about the Israeli tactics, and I think the even heavier recent use of armor in these cities is partly a reaction to what happened in Jenin 18 months ago or so (infantry lured into a trap where walls were exploded onth them). Those tactics would be pretty much perfect in a place like Fallujah, where you don't really want any exposed troops doing foot patrols.
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