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Originally posted by ThurgreedMarshall
Bush isn't taking the war overseas. He is engaging in this war to make people feel better. He is saying, "I'm going after those damn Ay-rabs," and watching people line up behind him happy in this fiction of safety. When he wants to energize them, he scares them. When he wants to build himself up, he talks about safety. People eat it up because they're stupid.
You can't fight a worldwide network by picking one location and trying to take it over. That makes absolutely no sense. After 9/11 we had the sympathy and support of the entire world. Every country wanted to help. Bush took that and turned it all the way around. If there are terrorist cells all over the world, it seems to me that the best plan would have been to take advantage of the good will that we had from other countries after 9/11 -- use it to hunt terrorists down and destroy them. You don't destroy that good will and, at the same time, create recruits by engaging in a crusade in a country that posed no imminent threat.
I don't want to hear the SH was a bad man argument. If that was the rationale for taking him out, Bush and friends would have used it as the justification to go to war before we went to war. We took him out because Bush wanted to take him out. 9/11 was the excuse.
TM
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Seb's position on this is probably his alone, at least here.
The "bush lied" part misses that everyone, the UN, Blix, everyone thought the guy had the weapons. He was bluffing and for a decade everyone bought the bluff. But even if he had the weapons, and we removed them, much of what you said is correct. The real fight is catching guys in small groups, like happens every week, still, in countries that are "mad" at us.
what is BS about "Iraq is a distraction" and "we should have waited longer then we'd have 200K troops to throw at the real problem" is that we don't need 200K troops to attack the real problem. the only possible place where even 10000 troops could be used would be maybe in Pakistan or the Philippines, and both governments, while friendly don't want our troops there.
your other point about security is also true. There is nothing to prevent someone who has the mindset and explosives from walking on a crowded DC or NY subway car tonight. Guys willing to blow themselves up are a tough problem to solve.
