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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
The "bush lied" part misses that everyone, the UN, Blix, everyone thought the guy had the weapons. He was bluffing and for a decade everyone bought the bluff.
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I guess this is where the disagreement lies. I think that there was evidence out there (like SH himself trying to keep weapons inspectors at bay) that made one think that he was up to something. But there was also no evidence of the weapons actually existing. At best, Bush and Co. strained their reading of the evidence we did have to make it sound like there was no doubt that there were weapons. At worst, his administration out-and-out lied because he wanted to attack somebody and SH was as arab and annoying as anyone he could think of.
But that's not what we needed. We needed someone who could look at the evidence and not act on gut. We needed someone who would keep our collective eye on what was important. We needed someone to be responsible and focused. We got someone who wanted to strike back. That's cool. But don't just strike out for the sake of hitting someone. Use your fucking brains.
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Originally posted by Hank Chinaski
what is BS about "Iraq is a distraction" and "we should have waited longer then we'd have 200K troops to throw at the real problem" is that we don't need 200K troops to attack the real problem. the only possible place where even 10000 troops could be used would be maybe in Pakistan or the Philippines, and both governments, while friendly don't want our troops there.
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I think if the President had put $87 billion into uncovering terrorist cells all over the world and was successful first in the countries that couldn't wait to step up and show support, that when something like Madrid happened, it would only
strengthen everyone's resolve. At a certain point, Pakistan and the Philippines cave because the whole world is putting the pressure on. Now, everyone is trying to distance themselves from us. If Iraq was the only problem, that would be fine. But how the hell are we going to find these people when they are spread all over the world and we piss on the leaders of the countries they're in every chance we get?
TM
