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Originally posted by Secret_Agent_Man
The bottom line is most American Catholics (barring recent immigrants) aren't truly Catholics any more. The religion has a core set of basic, non-negotiable principles. That is, actually, a reasonable position for a religion to take. If you don't believe, you're not in the club. Amen.
In sum, while this is a nasty process that would make lots of people feel bad, I actually think this is an admirably principled stand by the Church (and no doubt led by non-Americans). J2P2 is a hard-core, conservative, traditionalist, principled guy. He actually IS a "compassionate conservative" in a way that puts pretenders and corporate whores like our President to shame.
I'd kind of hate to be excommunciated, but I'd just formally join the religion of the church I'm a member in anyway.
S_A_M
[edited to remove random words.]
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Note that there is a significant conflict within the Catholic Church on the doctrine of infallibility and what it means. For many of us, infallibility is limited to specific pronouncements of a Pope spoken in combination with a Church council. But the doctrine has only been in place since 1870 and is still being defined. This may well be the bigger issue, and my fear is that if infallibility is available to a pope on a day to day issue the Church itself will have lost the eternal faith.