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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Instead of impugning his motives, why don't you look at what Kerry actually did. According to factcheck.org, which comes endorsed by Dick Cheney, Kerry "voted for an alternative resolution that would have approved $87 billion in emergency funds for troops and reconstruction in Iraq and Afghanistan, but it was conditioned on repealing much of Bush's tax cuts, and it failed 57-42." That was a vote for funding the $87 billion. Your objection is not that he wouldn't vote to fund the troops, but that he wouldn't borrow to do it. You could just as easily attack Bush for refusing to ask the rich to forego tax cuts while the country is at war.
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Right, there were two votes. The first didn't pass. The second did, and Kerry voted against it. 30 of the senators that voted for the first bill also voted for the second bill. Kerry did not. So after his bill was defeated, he voted against the only remaining bill that would fund the troops - hence, "I voted for it before I voted against it." That's responsible.
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This is a new code of conduct for Presidents that apparently just got pulled out of Karl Rove's ass. So during an election, political candidates are supposed to avoid dissent on the most important issues of the day? If that's what you think, you should be writing in a vote for Putin.
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We've talked about this before. It is not the disent, it is the manner in which it is done. Without rehashing the entire debate, there is a way to do it that is presidential, and a way to do it that is not. Kerry has, at times, chosen the latter, although he positioned it much more presidential in the debates.
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It would apply to the French if Allawi were their puppet. WTF are you talking about?
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I'm talking about the fact that when Bush calls the French on their bullshit you squawk about a lack of diplomacy, but when Kerry calls Allawi on something Kerry thinks is bullshit he is just calling a spade a spade.
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Is that not true of many of the countries on the list?
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I don't know but that's not the point. A good diplomat never utters words remotely like this.
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After you act, you open your mouth and say things that are true and correct, not bullshit. The issue here is that Bush thinks he should be above explaining anything to anyone. William Saletan in Slate (internal links omitted) said it better than I can:
If you can't understand Kerry's explanation of the so-called "global test," it's no wonder that you think he doesn't have a platform.
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Heh. They don't issue us the decoder rings that Gatti passes out at your meetings.
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You conservatives like to pretend that Democrats were somehow opposed to the war in Afghanistan. Barbara Lee voted against the $$$, but every other Democratic Senator and Representative was in favor. It's a straw man.
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And you like to forget that the Democrats were also in favor of the war in Iraq, until Howard Dean started to pull away in the polls. Then it became OK to be against it, even if you were for it.
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