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Old 10-20-2004, 12:36 PM   #4149
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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Buckley, of course, has often described himself as a liberal - in the original, 19th century use of the term.

First, not much socialist about them - they very much allied with large industry in Germany, not against it. It is that alliance with big business and their rapant nationalism, both characteristic of the right in the 1930s, that earned them a label as right wing. Also their strong opposition to the left (cf. Spanish Civil War).

Yes, conservatives today have different views of the world than conservatives did in the 1930s, and a libertarian and Nazi are at least as far apart as an anarchist and a communist. Still, if you think all conservatives in the world are libertarians, I'd recommend a visit to Europe, South America or South Africa.
Which more than anything shows that the labels have been skewed to the point of meaninglessness. As for the Spanish Civil War, that was ultimately Russian-centric nationalism cloaked in Soviet Internationalsim for the most part on the left. So I don't really see that "nationalism" angle distinguishing any philosophy from another; rather, it only distinguishes the propoganda they sold to the masses.

And big business in cahoots with the G? How different is that from the G being the big business? Not the Right of the ancients or the moderns by any measure.

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