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Old 10-21-2004, 10:41 PM   #4462
Say_hello_for_me
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Originally posted by sebastian_dangerfield
I reach the conclusion that death is the end because there is no proof to the contrary. And as explained before, arguing "Well, you can't prove there's no afterlife" is only a rebuttal if we're in fourth grade.

Of course everyone fears the end. Animals fear the end. That fear and anxiety is not exclusively human by any stretch. People who admit thaat death is probably the end fear it even more than people like you, who trick themselves into believing there's a fifth quarter. For non-bleivers, death is more finite.

Religion is your drug, your hedge. Its what you run to instead of dealing with the issue at hand.

The fear that secularists have of is not feaar of consequences. Thats a pretty specious argument, don't you think? If a man does not believe in heaven and hell, what sort of consequence does he fear? Your argument appeaars to assume that we all secretly believe in the afterlife and anxiety derives from fear of damnation. Thats rather parochial, even for you.
My dear boy, you say my hedge? I'd actually submit that your fear is your hedge. Ironic, no? You be sure to let me know when you aren't afraid of the end, and I'll continue the conversation with the true atheist you've become at that time. Until then, you are the Converted. A Believer so to say. Mass is at 5:00 on Saturday.

ETA: Oops, and I missed that thing about animals. How would you know that animals fear the end? I've seen animals die quite peacefully after being bad their whole lives. We used to have this dog Sandy who was constantly grabbing garbage from a garbage can and then walking by us in the living room while watching us from the corner of her eye, like "come and get me, bitch".

I say you have no explanation for your fear, and you end up speculating on whether animals think about the afterline. My dear, dear, dear friend, did you say my line of reasoning is specious? Holy BeJeezus.
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