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Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
My dear boy, you say my hedge? I'd actually submit that your fear is your hedge. Ironic, no? You be sure to let me know when you aren't afraid of the end, and I'll continue the conversation with the true atheist you've become at that time. Until then, you are the Converted. A Believer so to say. Mass is at 5:00 on Saturday.
ETA: Oops, and I missed that thing about animals. How would you know that animals fear the end? I've seen animals die quite peacefully after being bad their whole lives. We used to have this dog Sandy who was constantly grabbing garbage from a garbage can and then walking by us in the living room while watching us from the corner of her eye, like "come and get me, bitch".
I say you have no explanation for your fear, and you end up speculating on whether animals think about the afterline. My dear, dear, dear friend, did you say my line of reasoning is specious? Holy BeJeezus.
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Look, I'm the king of hijacking posts and changing subjects, but when confronted, I honestly debate. I offered a rather simple theory, and you've dishonestly ducked it over and over again.
Belief in god is at its core fear driven, because people want to think there's something out there, somewhere to go after death. You haven't offeered me a single different explantion for belief in god, or anything to refute my theory. In place of debate, you've either purposefully misrepresented my words or are actually an idiot and truly can't follow my simple point. Its not a retort to say "its you, not me, who's afraid."
As to the animal thing, I watched my 16 year old cat get euthanized. They very much understand when they're old and dying, and if you've owned pets you understand this.
I will be afraid at the end. Thats my point, you idiot. Do you have learning disabilities. We all have a fear of the unknown and dying is the great unknown. The difference is you believe you're going somewhere and I'm man enough to admit I don't know if I'm going somewhere, and I'm not fool enough to "belive" I am based on the zero evidence available.
