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Originally posted by Say_hello_for_me
Quick, where's an adult to tell me to go to my room?
You are quite the name-caller, huh pal?
I'm not accusing you of having anything like a "belief" in God. If you took that literally from my post than you should run out and buy a sarcasm meter. I'm accusing you of misrepresenting a belief in Nada, Nothing, Nobody or whatever you said
I should really be able to ignore you. Why can't I ignore you? Please resign from your post as a moderator of a dead board so I can.
It is you who are hedging, and its in stark contrast to your asserted belief in Nada, Nothing, Nobody. You said it, so what words am I putting in your mouth? You also said everybody is afraid of the end. You denying this?
Here's a clue. The two are irreconcilable. You can't deny God entirely (i.e., Nada, Nothing, Nobody) if you can't disclaim a fear of God. You can't be afraid of something that you affirmatively assert does not exist. Nobody is afraid of nothing. Tell me again how your doggy cried for its mommy when it was going to doggy heaven. At best, people are afraid of what is out there in the unknown. In your case, you are afraid of Who you think might be hiding behind door #1. Yup, you are afraid of the possibility of a big, hairy, vengeful God.
Quick, call me some more names and tell me how you didn't say what you said. I'll see you at mass in 2 days, m'kay buddy? You don't mind if I sign you up for the choir, do ya?
ETA "door"
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"Nobody is afraid of nothing."
Well, if you insist on putting the rabbit in the hat, there's no point in debate, is there?
To the contrary, I am very afraid of nothing. Perhaps "fear" might be the wrong word, but lets just say I'm not pleased at the thought of passing from consciousness into nothingness. But I don't have any choice now, do I?
"Yup, you are afraid of the possibility of a big, hairy, vengeful God."
Actually, thats you. I find the notion of a vengeful god to be a construction exclusively of organized religion. It was a cynical way of keeping the masses in check.
If you read my posts, you'd know I actually said I believe in a creating force. I don't, however, believe in the western notion of a "God" who morally judges and has any interest in humanity. I've said that from the start, and you know it. You twisted my words to accuse me of being a hypocritical false atheist.
One can believe in a God and believe that Death is the end for him at the same time. They are not mutually exclusive concepts. You, I presume, do not see these as mutually exlusive concepts. And the reason is because without the afterlife, your belief in god really has no point.
I don't mean to attack your faith, but there are so many holes in what you believe, and you seem so unable to defend it on its merits, that I just can't help myself. I see so many intellectually dishonest concepts bandied about this country these days, and I view "faith" as one of the chief instigators of this dumbing-down of society. I'm sorry, but it really offends me. I don't understand how a mind can self-manipulate to the point where it believes the fantastic and rejects the obvious. Its baffling.
