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Originally posted by dtb
Is God an essential part of any afterlife? Is there a treatise on this or something?
I'm a "believer", but I don't see why you think sd has admitted that he believes in God if he admits he will be afraid of what happens to him after he dies.
No one can prove there is or isn't an afterlife -- or if there is, what it is like, and I don't think that believing there could be some form of existence after death is a de facto admission that there is a God.
Why are you so threatened by the fact that someone does not believe in God?
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Oh sweetie, let me put this in pretty picture for you.
There is
1.) an affirmative belief (conviction) in God (or Gods, or a higher power, or the Mountain);
2.) an affirmative belief that there is not a God etc.; and
3.) anything in-between.
So, for starters, I'm not threatened by the "fact" that someone does not believe in God. How did you come away from this daylong discussion with this impression? Your final question is the equivalent of me asking why you hate black people (i.e., huh?).
As to your first question, if you can set out any (i.e,
any) explanation for a fear that is not based on judgement, punishment, pain or something along those lines, than have at it. Last I checked, Sebby was backpedaling away from that position, and I'm not sure he wants to sacrifice you as his rear guard. No matter, y'all find a better word to describe his "concern" about what happens, and I'm all ears. Meantime, I've answered his question about why people feel they can impose morality on others. If this (imposing morality on others to, e.g., enfranchise others) weren't a fundamental part of human history, defenseless people like blacks and women would still be traded on auction blocks and prohibited from voting with the enfranchised white men. How could we do this to southern slaveholders? How could we do this to wife beaters and Mormons? And why are you arguing that we shouldn't have?
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