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Old 12-11-2004, 02:28 PM   #409
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smoke & mirrors

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
No, but it means that "privatization" isn't really a reform of what we're doing now -- it's completely different, apart from the "private" aspect, in that individuals are saving for themselves instead of paying for the retirement of others.
Yup.


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It's a much bigger cost than the shortfall Social Security is expected to face down the road, although of course that depends on how much revenue is diverted.
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Drum's posts suggest that they are hardy being super-conservative, so that's where we appear to differ. And that 11% figure is only for certain periods, I think. Read Drum's posts. How do you explain stock market returns over time that outpace economic growth by so much?
You mean, acccepting your assumption as true, how can I disagree?

And the 11% (10.4, to be precise) number is the S&P since 1926.

I am too lazy to google it right now, but what has the annual growth in GDP been over that period?

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Because the social compact we inherited, borne of the Great Depression, is that we pay for current retirees, and another generation will pay for us.
Because we made a mistake then, and chose the more expensive and less sustainable system means we should be continually wed to it?

In your own words, its a Ponzi scheme. Isn't that reason enough to change it?
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