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Old 01-18-2005, 02:49 PM   #1612
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Originally posted by bilmore
No, I read an analysis last night - somewhere - that compared deaths in Iraq attributed to the insurgency - on all sides - and compared the same time frame to Chicago murder deaths.
I'd be interested in the time frame, and knowing if the rate in Chicago at that time was representative of the rate in Chicago as a whole. If the time frame seems objectively reasonable as applied to Iraq (only counting deaths after some major event) then presumably it makes sense, but if there was a time period during which deaths were high in Chicago (e.g., a couple of weeks of gang clashes that resulted in an unusually high rate of deaths) then it'd be too easy to fuck with the time periods.

Again, though, there's a difference to me between deaths from regular criminal activity, and deaths intended to influence the social structure. Note that many gang-type deaths I would classify as the latter. Also, I'm not saying that I don't think Iraq is ready for elections. I just am sceptical of this comparison you speak of really being apples/apples, particularly since you are comparing an entire country to a major urban area. I would think the death rates in Baghdad/Falluja would be higher than in Iraq as a whole, just as Chicago's rates are higher than IL as a whole, or than the US as a whole.
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