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Originally posted by Greedy,Greedy,Greedy
Look, identifying someone as a conservative or liberal is a nice way to set up a dichotomy during an election where things come down to A v. B, but on an intellectual level it's far better to focus on perspectives on an issue than what label appropriately applies.

Many of the above are self-identifiers, while the liberal bullets were opposition identifiers, corners conservatives try to paint liberals into. You know those liberal, it's all group-think, anti-individualistic, moral relativistic, anti-religion, tax and spend. Guess what? That's bullshit and you really ought to know it.

As an example of how the above are self-identifiers, conservatives are quick to say the federal goverment has usurped powers of the state, until it is time to ban flag burning, gay marriage, abortion, or any number of other issues. Conservatives are anxious to foster "moral issues" until someone says that civil rights are moral issues. So how do liberals define conservatives? Greedy, self-serving bastards without a heart. Holier than thou uptight religious nuts who can't respect other's religious beliefs. See Shape Shifter's links for more. Is that really productive?

See, but club would say that people who are in favor of the federal bans on flag burning, recognition of same-sex marriage and abortion are not actually truly conservative.

It's cute watching y'all do the same things and then yell at each other about it. are you taking over for Ty?