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Old 02-23-2005, 01:52 AM   #3647
Tyrone Slothrop
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Originally posted by Spanky
I don't understand why people consider George W. Bush such a conservative. He is a little more conservative than me on the social issue. But on those he mostly just talks a lot and does nothing (e.g. not really pushing for the marriage amendment etc.).
He sings their song, even if he doesn't believe their lyrics. He's more conservative, socially, than any other president since the New Deal.

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On foreign policy we see eye to eye, although I consider the whole neocon thing as following in the Wilson and Kennedy tradition. Aggresively pushing for democracy around the world is not a traditional conservative foreign policy position.
What about making happy noises about promoting democracy around the world? Is that conservative? The only big thing Bush has done to promote democracy is invade Iraq, and we' re only pretending that that was all about democracy because the other rationales have evaporated.

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Usually the conservatives only do stuff that is in the national interest.
As opposed to the lefties, who like to give weapons to the Chinese (hi Hank!) and canals to the Panamanians?

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On Fiscal issues I don't think Bush is conservative at all. He has not cut domestic spending significantly - he passed a rather small tax cut - and I would be pushing for much more drastic changes to social security. I would have never pushed the Medicare drug prescription thing.
He's redefined your movement, friend. Conservatism is no longer about small government. That pretense is O-V-E-R. Conservativism now means spending lots of money and borrowing to cover it.
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