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Old 03-10-2005, 11:52 PM   #4935
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Something was rotten in the state of Ohio.

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Originally posted by Tyrone Slothrop
The things that you say we need don't do anything to address the problems described in Hitchens' article.

I don't have a problem with legitimate measures to prevent vote fraud. But I'm also not convinced that there is a big problem with people showing up pretending to be someone else. Hey, persuade me. And absentee ballots clearly have a risk of fraud to them, but they also are important for ensuring that people can vote.

Too often Republicans support measures purportedly aimed at vote fraud because they will also make it more difficult to vote, and because the populations whose vote is thereby suppressed most tend to vote for Democrats.

And from where I'm sitting the magnitude of the potential problems Hitchens describes vastly exceeds the sorts of problems you're talking about.
I will agree that, with Hitchens saying this, it takes on new seriousness. No, he's no hack - and what he's saying, I had discounted as the things hacks say. So, I can't anymore.

And I agree that his suggestions should be examined, and maybe followed. So, to that extent, I agree.

I was simply reacting to the undertone of your post - that the R's were unconcerned about fraud, mostly because we're winning now. Look to Wisconsin - look to the history of some of the middle states - vote fraud has been rife throughout, recently and historically. And it's been an R topic, roundly criticized as being aimed only at stopping the vote, to which, of course, the response is, yeah, we need to stop the votes that should have never been counted.

But, like I say, when Hitchens started talking about this (weeks ago), it started to sound like something to look at.
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